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Old 09-22-2006, 08:33 PM
HitNRunPoster HitNRunPoster is offline
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Default 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

Villain (button) is 28.7/1.1/0.85 after 94 hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($120.55)
BB ($56.61)
UTG ($113.02)
UTG+1 ($20)
MP1 ($42.50)
MP2 ($100.30)
MP3 ($66.55)
Hero ($142.48)
Button ($149.11)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50. UTG+1 posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($5.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, Button calls $6, BB folds.

Turn: ($18.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

Raise preflop.

Board sucks...I probably lead.
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

leads for 13$
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

I've never played NL FR

but an utg limper, and a poster(UTG1 should be a very good sign he's bad) = I raise 99 in the CO

it accomplishes a few things, you often buy the button, which is nice for getting free cards on flops you don't want to c-bet, you fold some garbage X&gt;9 high hands that might let you win a few more pots, and you pick up 3.50 right away sometimes, thats a good result

as played I think the speed of the call will tell you some info, if its a turbo call its usually a draw, which is likely clubs given the board and his stats

the 7 mostlikely didn't improve his hand, so I would fire again on the turn for 14ish
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

raise preflop
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

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raise preflop

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Yeah, sounds good.
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Old 09-23-2006, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

I'm going to bump this. I'm not sure that a FF can call that bet b/c it's not closing the action, but I suppose it's not a big risk, especially since it could be a combo flush draw and the first guy looked weak when he bet it. However, if you were a combo flush draw you basically have to push right there in case the first guy was betting a higher flush draw, I think.

Timing tells are interesting. I don't know about that, but it sounds pretty good. One of my real weak points is the psychology of poker. Thanks for that tip!

I'm quite concerned that I'm against a set here. How reasonable is that concern? How often will he have a set vs an overpair or a draw?
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Old 09-23-2006, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

He played the flop very passivly. There's no telling what he has here, could be draw could be slowplayed big hand or an overpair.
So what limps on the button? Large pairs and overcards can well be excluded. So suited aces, suited connectors and pocket pairs all limp there. On the flop he calls your raise. No indication of a big hand, so a draw is most likely.
Which draws did the 7 complete? just a strange inside straigt-draw. So most likely you're still good against a draw or a sc or suited ace that caught TPTK. Bet 2/3 - 3/4 of the pot on the turn and re-evaluate if he raises you. Most probably fold if that happens.
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Old 09-23-2006, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: 99 vs sick flop call (100 fr)

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I'm quite concerned that I'm against a set here. How reasonable is that concern? How often will he have a set vs an overpair or a draw?

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you should start looking for monsters under your bed too... wtf makes you think he has a set?

and why did you not raise this pre-flop??!???!!
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