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Old 09-22-2006, 04:51 PM
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Default Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

Okay, so this hand was a little over a week ago and I'm still thinking about it every now and then.

I am playing laggish, 35/25, and my stack is at 500. Villain has 670 and is a 93/41/5 over 100 hands and is playing everything weirdly. ie he can have anything, seriously. he got his stack by refusing to fold top pair for 1 buyin against turn checkraises from guys with 1 buyin when he had 3, ie not folding J9o on a JxxT three diamonds board.

FullTiltPoker - 1/2 NL
Seat 1: HERO ($496.85)
Seat 2: madpanda ($149.25)
Seat 3: VILLAIN ($676.25)
Seat 4: OwChS ($213.80)
Seat 5: JustRiveredU ($195)
Seat 6: Furry Nut ($338)
JustRiveredU posts the small blind of $1
Furry Nut posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [7d 7s]
HERO raises to $7
madpanda: just the fact that you called my raise with that
madpanda folds
VILLAIN calls $7
JustRiveredU folds
Furry Nut folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 8h 7c]
HERO bets $14
VILLAIN: i small raise no good
VILLAIN calls $14
*** TURN *** [4s 8h 7c] [4h]
HERO checks
VILLAIN: ace king no good
VILLAIN checks
*** RIVER *** [4s 8h 7c 4h] [2d]
HERO bets $40
VILLAIN raises to $165
HERO has 15 seconds left to act
VILLAIN: call me

holy river raise batman???

keep in mind there was 40 in this pot going to river.

also, we played 1 hand prior, also semi deep, where i checkraised a Q977 two hearts board all in on the turn (sizeable raise) and he tanked and folded what he said was top pair. so i think he is capable of folding trips and a straight to a river shove.

thoughts? btw i am not folding. dont say fold.
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:58 PM
NDHand NDHand is offline
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

Why did you check the turn against a 93/43/5? With any piece of the board he's very likely to go crazy all-in thinking you'll fear the paired 4. As played, shove for a one-way ticket to valuetown.
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

hum, i think that if he is not bluffing, a retard calls like 280 more with any hands that he reraise the river (any slowplayed overpair, OMG I AM TRAPPING HIM WITH AA!!!, 78, 56) after all, you might be bluffing, you are a Lag.
You will see 88 and 44 sometimes, but well, what you can do?
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

push


come on he has aces here 4 shooo..
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

Explain to me please why this isn't the world's easiest push against a 93/41/5 guy. If you lose this, just post in BBV.

He thinks you have AA or something, so he's typing "Call me" in chat with his straight. I don't doubt he THINKS he has a monster with his assinine table chat, but he's too stupid to know what a monster is.
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

most important thing at play in this hand imo - is he always this chatty?
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Old 09-22-2006, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

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most important thing at play in this hand imo - is he always this chatty?

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i wasnt paying attention [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] (12 tabling)
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Old 09-22-2006, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

i was going for a turn checkraise btw in the hopes that his goofy hand would bet to steal from what looked like AK or something. he even said as much. except he checked.

anyone like betting on turn more than a checkraise?
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Old 09-22-2006, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

Folding would be horribly wrong. So good thing.

I raise for value and I will happily go all in. 88 and 44 beat me but the chances he has a straight, trips, or an overpair, make me want to get all in. He could even be on some kind of bluff here because you look weak until the river and potting the river looks like a bluff (well he might interpret it as such).

Shove.

Just because he can fold top pair to a big bet does not mean he can fold OMG TRIPS or OMG STRIAIGHT!! to a big bet.
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Old 09-22-2006, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Sick, sick hand 2.5 buyins deep. Read ->

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i was going for a turn checkraise btw in the hopes that his goofy hand would bet to steal from what looked like AK or something. he even said as much. except he checked.

anyone like betting on turn more than a checkraise?

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Erm. You said in your own read that he can't fold top pair. Of course a bet is better. With any luck he raises because AK is no good.
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