just curious about this (probably standard) river decision

viciouspenguin · #1 09-22-2006, 02:23 PM

hero is multitabling TAG pre, something like 24/18 or so, a little crazy preflop sometimes but mostly standard postflop.

villain is also a multitabling TAG, 24/20 this session. moody player - spews and tilts sometimes, plays decent when winning. he seems to be winning today

i'm not hero. effective stacks 1000

hero opens to 33 utg+2 with AsQd, villain calls in co

flop Qh7sTc

hero bets 60, villain calls.

turn 6c

hero bets 166, villain calls.

river Ac

hero?

Requin · #2 09-22-2006, 02:27 PM

Looks like a super standard bet/fold.

KRANTZ · #3 09-22-2006, 02:33 PM

i was hero in this hand, and what i did on the river had a LOT to do with my perception of this specific villain.

viciouspenguin · #4 09-22-2006, 02:41 PM

requin,

is there any reason to bet here? about a psb left

krantz,

what is your standard line here against a "more standard" tag

KRANTZ · #5 09-22-2006, 02:42 PM

i would check/fold

viciouspenguin · #6 09-22-2006, 02:43 PM

thats what i was thinking too, ok maybe boring hand then

JKratzer · #7 09-22-2006, 02:45 PM

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am i missing something? you made top two on river and you want to c/f against someone that just called flop and turn. at the very least i would think c/c or b/f.

edit: nevermind, going over the hand some more and i guess i don't see much you can beat from tags.

KRANTZ · #8 09-22-2006, 02:46 PM

i honestly shoved because i thought villain would pay me off with a bunch of worse hands he could have called flop and turn with, and because i would shove if i were 3-barreling and thought he'd be thinking about this too and possibly make a big call

DJ Sensei · #9 09-22-2006, 04:13 PM

against a spewy/aggro opponent, bet/fold seems like a pretty bad idea since he's liable to shove over the top on a bluff or something (esp with these stack sizes).

check/call seems like a decent option to me.

But this situation is definitely one that'll depend a lot on the particular opponent and your reads.

these hero/villain-switcheroo posts always confuse me, too...

Requin · #10 09-22-2006, 09:54 PM

Oh you guys are right, we are alot shallower than I thought. Still I don't think I'd fold against many people, I'd c/c.