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Old 09-18-2006, 02:23 PM
SoulPower SoulPower is offline
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Default $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

Not being results oriented, but I want to know if any of you see yourselves getting away from any of these hands at PP $25NL. These hands were all within the first 15 minutes at the table and all vilians seemed like your typical $25NL players.

Hand 1
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($23.40)
BB ($15)
UTG ($14.85)
MP ($18.05)
Hero ($23.80)
Button ($8.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $1</font>, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($5.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, Hero calls $0.80.

River: ($10.90) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $10.90

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qd Jd (flush, queen high).
Button has Ad Kd (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins $10.90. </font>

Hand 2
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($47.14)
BB ($30.61)
UTG ($24.65)
Hero ($37.81)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1.22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($20.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $14.65.

River: ($35) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $35

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Kh Qh (flush, king high).
Hero has Qs Ks (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: UTG wins $35. </font>

Hand 3
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP ($33.30)
CO ($17.60)
Hero ($25.10)
SB ($20.26)
BB ($23.90)
UTG ($20.04)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $4.05</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8.1</font>, SB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12.15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16.2</font>, Hero calls $0.39.

Turn: ($33) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($33) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $33

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has 5c 5s (full house, fives full of queens).
Hero has Qs Kh (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: CO wins $33. </font>

Hand 4
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($49.71)
MP ($16.46)
CO ($7.03)
Button ($47.92)
SB ($4.88)
Hero ($27.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $0.89</font>, Hero calls $0.74, CO calls $0.74, Button calls $0.74.

Flop: ($3.96) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero calls $3.89, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $11</font>, Button calls $15.06.

Turn: ($33.91) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: ($33.91) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: $33.91

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Jd As (two pair, jacks and nines).
Hero has 7c 8c (straight, jack high).
Button has Qd Kh (straight, king high).
Outcome: Button wins $33.91. </font>
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

action is messed up. but i go broke here all day and twice on sunday. or whatever that saying is.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

Send this to BBV. I go broke on all these hands. I hate your minraising in hand 3 btw.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

The only one that warrants discussion is hand 2. I would probably let it go when UTG 3-bets on the flop. Once the Q hits on the turn there's no escape. The other hands are BBV.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

No, I don't not go broke with any of these, except for maybe the last one, where I probably go broke as well.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

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Send this to BBV. I go broke on all these hands. I hate your minraising in hand 3 btw.

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Agreed and agreed. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't alone here.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

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No, I don't not go broke with any of these, except for maybe the last one, where I probably go broke as well.

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Expand on this?
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

ye all your doing is posting all your 'bad beats'. In most of these hand s you played badly but would have lost your stack even if you played them well.

the min bet and call of the 3bet in hand 2 nearly made me puke
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

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ye all your doing is posting all your 'bad beats'. In most of these hand s you played badly but would have lost your stack even if you played them well.

the min bet and call of the 3bet in hand 2 nearly made me puke

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Actually they're not bad beats and it turned out I was behind when the money went in in all of them; regardless this isn't a whine post. I posted them to see if I should/could have gotten away from any of them.

I tend to agree about hand 2. A flush draw would probably not have 3-bet so I figured AK, KQ, KJ but the UTG limp caused me to discount AK. Is it still a bad call getting better than 2:1?
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: $25NL - Do you not go broke with any of these?

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I tend to agree about hand 2. A flush draw would probably not have 3-bet so I figured AK, KQ, KJ but the UTG limp caused me to discount AK. Is it still a bad call getting better than 2:1?

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I seriously doubt that he's 3-betting KJ or worse, or even KQ honestly. I agree that AK is unlikely but not impossible. In addition, you have 88, 33, and K8 (or even the unlikely K3...hey, it's 25nl) that are all ahead. I think he could 3-bet with a flush draw, although in that case he has at least 9 if not 12 outs (with Ahxh.) All in all, I think it's a fold against an unknown here.
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