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Old 09-15-2006, 09:36 PM
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Default JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

Villain is tight.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP1 ($218.15)
MP2 ($131.96)
MP3 ($419)
Hero ($456.40)
Button ($386)
SB ($446.90)
BB ($0)
UTG ($373.57)
UTG+1 ($231.76)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2. UTG posts a blind of $4.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $44</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $32.

Flop: ($94) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $78</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $200...</font>


I liked my line until I realized I just pot-committed myself to call a push (only another ~$140 to call). So be it? Thoughts?
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

so be it.
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

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Villain is tight.

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Any idea of his RRing range?
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

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Villain is tight.

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Any idea of his RRing range?

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Probably the usual (TT+/AK I guess?), which doesn't bode well for me except for the fact that I did open from CO, so I'm thinking that's gotta widen it quite a bit. I haven't seen what he isos with to know for sure though.

FWIW his stats were like 9/7/2 in 50ish hands
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

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Villain is tight.

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Any idea of his RRing range?

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Probably the usual (TT+/AK I guess?), which doesn't bode well for me except for the fact that I did open from CO, so I'm thinking that's gotta widen it quite a bit. I haven't seen what he isos with to know for sure though.

FWIW his stats were like 9/7/2 in 50ish hands

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Is c/f too nitty? (I don't play FR)
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

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Is c/f too nitty?

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I don't think so
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

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Is c/f too nitty?

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I don't think so

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If this hand went the same way except that I had opened from UTG, I would be more willing to check-fold the flop. But I think the fact that I was in late position has got to change things a bit, right?
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

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Is c/f too nitty?

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I don't think so

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If this hand went the same way except that I had opened from UTG, I would be more willing to check-fold the flop. But I think the fact that I was in late position has got to change things a bit, right?

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Generally, I would say so, but given just how tight his stats are (yeah, I know, tiny sample) and the fact that this is full ring make me a bit more pensive.

I don't like a check/raise, though. I would probably check/call one bet, and probably fold to a strong second barrell, if I didn't want to give up so easily.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:23 PM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

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I liked my line until I realized I just pot-committed myself to call a push (only another ~$140 to call). So be it? Thoughts?

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zomg, spew. A pair of jacks does not win an $800 pot against a tight player. Checkraising and calling a push is like lighting money on fire. I would prefer nearly any line to this one.
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Old 09-16-2006, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: JJ facing pre-flop re-raise $400NL

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I liked my line until I realized I just pot-committed myself to call a push (only another ~$140 to call). So be it? Thoughts?

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zomg, spew. A pair of jacks does not win an $800 pot against a tight player. Checkraising and calling a push is like lighting money on fire. I would prefer nearly any line to this one.

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How about leading the flop and folding to a raise?
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