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Old 09-15-2006, 07:36 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

OK, just started playing again, and decided to check out a new site for a bit and this hand came up.

Villain is 26/20/3, but mainly from mined hands. This is the 1st session I've played with him, and we not got any history. If he has stats on me, I'm probably playing my normal "nitty" 19/15/3 style.

Whats my play on the turn here? If its not fold, whats my river plan?

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $79.25
CO: $397.43
Button: $25.12
SB: $655.62
Hero: $314.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $24</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($48, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $32</font>, SB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($112, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $75</font>, Hero.......?
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:39 PM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

I would put him on a AT/AJ hand....I dont know if he will muck if you raise though, and would be inclined to fold. If you think he will fold a mid ace (T/J), i like a push very much.

It is a blind battle though, so who knows if he will give you credit.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:42 PM
mudbuddha mudbuddha is offline
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

i'd muck here
who leads this turn that u beat and wont love his hand
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:43 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

I'd bet a bit more on the flop. $38-45 and probably shutdown. I think turn is a fold. He might be semibluffing hearts, but his betsizing convinces me otherwise: I expect hearts or 97 to either make a small blocking bet (40-50) or a big semibluff (80-110), so it looks to me like he has a decent ace. Calling puts us in a really tough spot on the river because we won't know if he's bluffing, valuebetting trips/boat or made his draw. Really bad reverse implied odds situation unless his bluffing frequency is really high.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

Looks like a fold.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

KK = AJ here, I would definitely call. Why would we get led into here by a guy with an ace?

What reason does say AJ / AQ have to bet? They get all worse hands to fold and all better hands to call, where is the value? They are hardly worried about a 2 outter.

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Old 09-15-2006, 07:53 PM
younghov17 younghov17 is offline
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

im calling here pretty often, his range isnt just an ace, and u have position.
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:08 PM
cbloom cbloom is offline
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

I think if he wanted to bluff it would've been on the flop, this smells more like ace-weak-kicker that was kinda scared on the flop but is now trying to keep you from checking behind on the turn.
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:09 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

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I think if he wanted to bluff it would've been on the flop, this smells more like ace-weak-kicker that was kinda scared on the flop but is now trying to keep you from checking behind on the turn.

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so you think he is betting for value wih AJ?
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: KK in a rr pot vs SLAG (200NL)

I have stats similar to villan. I have an ace here about 50% of the time. If you're a nit to me I have air, and I'd be considering anything that isn't an Ace to be air against you.
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