(215) - In the money with nut flush draw. One player already all-in

[ClockWyze]

Since he pushed the flop I would have to put him on a 7 at worst.

***** Hand History for Game 5166424610 *****
NL Texas Hold'em 215 Buy-in Trny:28690842 Level:5 Blinds(200/400) - Wednesday, September 13, 23:18:06 ET 2006
Table Table 112207 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: VolumeOverSkill ( 6298 )
Seat 6: lfaststang ( 1860 )
Seat 10: DeFish007 ( 11842 )
Trny:28690842 Level:5
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VolumeOverSkill [ 9h Ah ]
lfaststang is all-In [1860]
DeFish007 calls [1660].
>You have options at Table 112322 Table!.
VolumeOverSkill calls [1460].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 2d, 7h ]
DeFish007 bets [4506].
VolumeOverSkill...

[BvlyHls90210]

I think raising only works if you have a hope that he folds. Given the action here, he's committed himself to this pot and I don't think he's going anywhere, so I think you are better off just letting it go. I'd rather fold here, push the rest of the hands. Either way you are probably going out 2nd, so might as well get your money's worth and play more hands!

[jbay]

It depends :-)

Damn dude this is a tough one. I've typed out like 3 reponses and deleted each one again. One of the weaknesses in my game (I believe) is my lack of organized hand analysis so keep this in mind while I randomly cite the thoughts I have in this situation.

1)SB probably has best hand and you are an underdog so is Button. I'd even say he's most likely to be on A10 or has maybe even set up. I don't think he'd bet the dryside here with A7.
2)You risk fininshing third by calling this bet (although it is a remote risk given what hand we've assigned the SB).
3)best guesses at likely outcomes: You win 33%, SB wins 57%, Button wins 10%.

My numbers are the assertions I would make on the fly, but you can change em how you like. Given these assertions there is a 90% chance you finish 1st or second by calling. Probably better than you had when you called the inital push by the button if that made sense than this should too.
Push em and gamble :-) How'd it turn out??

[durron597]

Do you think he's betting a worse flush draw here ever? Those times are a huge % of your equity

[The Yugoslavian]

No one likes pushing preflop? Okay I do that....and on the flop here I'd fold.

Yugoslav

[ClockWyze]

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No one likes pushing preflop? Okay I do that....and on the flop here I'd fold.

Yugoslav

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Really - you push preflop? That could very well end up in a third place finish if the cold caller big stack has TT+ AT+ or sucks out.

[ClockWyze]

As for the results I called and made my flush.

He had KT. So my Ace was live.

DeFish007 bets [4506].
VolumeOverSkill is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
DeFish007 shows [ Td, Kc ] a pair of tens.
VolumeOverSkill shows [ 9h, Ah ] a flush, ace high.
lfaststang shows [ 7s, 5c ] a pair of sevens.

[Eagles]

What to people think about shoving pf? For the flop you probally have at least 12 outs and are getting pretty good overlay so I call.
On the flop you need to call 4806 to win 14892 which is basically 3:1 so you only need to win 25% of the time and you are 26.46% to win against top set so I don't see how you can fold here. Can someone let me know if my math is wrong or if I'm missing something because from a Cev standpoint it is obviously plus ev.

[ManChild]

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Do you think he's betting a worse flush draw here ever? Those times are a huge % of your equity

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Not that this doesnt happen, but it is truly an awful play by the big stack to push a draw here into an empty sidepot

if the flop was checked to you would you bet it???... i hope not

[bigt439]

i push pf, but the flop seems like a complete no brainer call to me.

the dude shoved so hes likely to have a made hand, which figures to be better than whatever shorty had. plus he has to dodge all your outs. how is this not an insanely easy flop call?