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Hi all I've been playing SSPL for a couple of months and lurking on these forums. I do slightly better than break even, but think I may tend towards the weak tight. I've decided to post a few hands to see what you guys think.
Hope the converter works! The hand below was one of my first at the table so I have no reads on the villan. Party Poker Pot Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 9 players Converter Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, SB calls, Hero (poster) checks. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.25, 5 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds. Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.25, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, MP3 calls. River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($7.25, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises to $12.9</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: $10.9 returned to MP3. Results: Final pot: $11.25 This hand has just been bothering me as I went from the nuts on the turn to folding the river. Do you think a lone Jack ever does this? I folded at the time because I thought several spades hands may have made it to the river and my hands quite well defined. Do you think my river bet looks weak? After this hand I noticed the villan often bet big on scare cards on the river (although I didn't see results) would this affect the decision? |
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How is your hand well defined? I personally bet that turn with more hands than those that contain a J. Don't you bet with a set, an overpair or two pair there?
I bet more on the turn. Full pot - you have a vulnerable hand on a drawy board. I call the push. Partly because your bet is so weak, and because, yes. naked jacks do push. Oh, I forgot: welcome! And don't be scared off by the criticism. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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your hand isnt defined well at all here imo. i would pot the turn for value against lone J's and 2 pair hands. what's up with that weak river bet? you're just asking to get blown off your hand. if your plan was to bet small on the river to induce a bluff i would say nh.
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Although Villain could have As9s or AsJs or Js8s or something, I see no real reason to give him credit for a flush. I would call the river raise and take my chances.
People at NL25 love to slowplay, and like Jigsaws says, yes, it could be a naked J. |
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This is where a program like PokerTracker or PokerOffice is really handy. If this is a villian with an aggression factor of 0.5 doing this, you can safely exit the hand. Otherwise I'm calling.
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At the moment I'm not using PT or similar, trying to develop my game a bit first without it but it is something that I am considering.
This is a hand I didn't like my play in, so son't worry I won't be scared off by the criticism on the contary I encorage it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. I would bet a set on this turn but maybe not 2 pair or an overpair (If I had KK or AA it would be a different situation with a raise PF). On such a coordinated board I would be worried with these. Is this really bad? What is our plan for the river on this board with the same action say if I held 9c9h? Jigsaws you say I have a vulnerable hand what am I worried about except a spade? I can't see the villan having a set given the action and a K would only mean AJ beats me. |
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At the moment I'm not using PT or similar, trying to develop my game a bit first without it but it is something that I am considering. [/ QUOTE ] Do it! Seriously. [ QUOTE ] Jigsaws you say I have a vulnerable hand what am I worried about except a spade? I can't see the villan having a set given the action and a K would only mean AJ beats me. [/ QUOTE ] Heh, he could easily have a set when he flat-calls your flop bet (I don't think he has a set when he pushes the river, but you don't know that on the turn). 25NLers loves to slowplay. You don't want to see a K or J for the split either. But even if only the spade outs were there, you should full pot the turn. |
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I call this river bet. I generally don't take into runner runner flushes - perhaps this is a leak.
I also bet full pot on the turn. |
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Do it! Seriously. [/ QUOTE ] Noted I was more worried about low suited connectors as lots of people limp them. Things like 89,87 or 76, it just felt how some people would play a combo draw. But I'm not arguing pot the turn and call the river seems reasonable, with a stronger river bet if I'm not trying to induce the bluff. |
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