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09-09-2006, 01:33 PM
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Limp-calling a push with 33
Stupid, genius, or meh?
Stars 20/180. UTG+1 has been limping regularly as well as much of the table so I come along with 3's... PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> UTG+1 (t954) <font color="#C00000">Hero (t4520)</font> MP2 (t2845) MP3 (t2242) CO (t4600) <font color="#C00000">Button (t1840)</font> SB (t5277) BB (t1980) UTG (t7601) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t150, Hero calls t150, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t150, CO calls t150, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1840</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4520</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds. 
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#2
09-09-2006, 01:36 PM
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Re: Limp-calling a push with 33
Reads on Button? I'm not sure either. Hope for AK/AQ?
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#5
09-09-2006, 01:43 PM
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Re: Limp-calling a push with 33
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Why would you see him? It's a race at the least, and could well be an overpair. I'd guess AK-A9 tho. [/ QUOTE ] There's t825 of dead money + t1840 push = t2665 and it's t1690 to call - you get great odds on what is a coinflip agains the pusher's range (A2+, 22+, any 2 broadway, and suited connectors, etc. People do this move with all kinds of junk.)
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#6
09-09-2006, 01:43 PM
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Re: Limp-calling a push with 33
Yeah. Looking at Button's stack size and the fact there were numerous limpers, he's likely got a decent racing hand. Include QJs+, KQo+, Axs, ATo+ all pairs in his range. It's probably a little tighter than that though.
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#7
09-09-2006, 02:01 PM
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Re: Limp-calling a push with 33
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[ QUOTE ] Why would you see him? It's a race at the least, and could well be an overpair. I'd guess AK-A9 tho. [/ QUOTE ] There's t825 of dead money + t1840 push = t2665 and it's t1690 to call - you get great odds on what is a coinflip agains the pusher's range (A2+, 22+, any 2 broadway, and suited connectors, etc. People do this move with all kinds of junk.) [/ QUOTE ] Fair enough. But I'd stay out of coinflips that cut into 1/3-1/2 my stack while I'm still around M=20 myself. Yah, weak tight.
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#8
09-09-2006, 02:04 PM
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Re: Limp-calling a push with 33
Cue Rounders golf club quote [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#9
09-09-2006, 06:18 PM
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Re: Limp-calling a push with 33
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Fair enough. But I'd stay out of coinflips that cut into 1/3-1/2 my stack while I'm still around M=20 myself. Yah, weak tight. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. No need to gamble here.
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#10
09-09-2006, 06:20 PM
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Re: Limp-calling a push with 33
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Standard, there's a ton of dead money in that pot and you will be 55/45 fav at least half the time... [/ QUOTE ] These don't sound like very good odds. So half the time we're racing with extra chips in the pot, the other half of the time we're dominated looking to catch one of our 2 outs.
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