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Old 09-08-2006, 02:15 PM
whiteladder81 whiteladder81 is offline
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Default 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

Villain is 44/4/.42 45 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($43.10)
MP ($71.40)
Button ($18.30)
Hero ($117.75)
BB ($8.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4.

River: ($12.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $8.

Final Pot: $44.50

I am trying to find spots where I think I am missing value- it pisses me off leaving chips on the table(obv) is this a clear rr or do you call?
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

call. he is passive and minraised you on the river.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

6x does seem like a real concern (once Villain min-raises the river), doesn't it? Villain has been loose and very passive so far at the table.

I think you played it fine.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

Against someone this passive call and hope he has AJ.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

Is this pf call standard? [/nit]
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

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Is this pf call standard? [/nit]

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for me. [/lag]
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

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Is this pf call standard? [/nit]

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funny you should ask that..I wanted to raise it up to isolate this villain but I was in a big pot on another table and just called...
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

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Against someone this passive call and hope he has AJ.

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He did in fact have AJ I just felt I lost some value but it looks like I am being results oriented.Thanks.
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

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Against someone this passive call and hope he has AJ.

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He did in fact have AJ I just felt I lost some value but it looks like I am being results oriented.Thanks.

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I think you played the river fine. A 6 is definitely in his range, but he priced you in with that weak min-raise.

If you repop the river, what worse hands will call or better hands will fold?

To the poster who questioned pre-flop, I agree completing with J9o is not good unless villains are very passive or bad players.
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:43 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: 50 nl - Am I losing value by calling?

This is not a clear rr. The board is paired, so any 6x hand has you beat. Obviously boats have you beat. So, if you reraise on the river, what hands will call that you beat that reraised you in the first place? AJ? But would AJ just call down with both a heart and spade flush draw on the board by the turn, then min-raise the river? Calling seems good to me.
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