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Old 09-08-2006, 01:07 PM
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Default Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers bet)

If your first deposit at Mansion was $1100 to the the Steelers bet, then you also were given an $1100 bonus that can be played off in the casino or poker room. In the casino you must wager 10x the bonus+deposit. In this case, total wagering of $22,000 is required (($1100+$1100) *10)

This is further complicated by the fact that certain games have reduced contribution to the required wager. For instance, blackjack only contributes 10% of each bet towards your wagering requirement. So, a $5 bet on blackjack only contributes $.50 cents towards your $22,000 requirement. Baccarat contributes 25% towards your wagering requirement and results in about $150 EV if played out.


However, the best way to clear this bonus is actually with KENO resulting in EV of $540.08! Keno clears at 100% contribution for each bet. So a $10 bet at keno clears $10 of your wagering requirement. They allow this because Keno has a much higher house edge than most other games, however it seems they overlooked a keno side bet they offer.

Mansion offers a odd/even side bet on Keno that pays 1.95:1. (2.5% house edge) In order to play this bet, you have to also pick numbers. Picking 3 numbers has a house edge of 6.962%. Mansion allows your side bet to be 100x larger than your number pick bet. So, you can bet $.10 cents on the 3pick and $10.00 on the side bet.

This will require 2179 total spins to clear the $22,000 wagering requirement. The total expected house edge on this is $559.92 leaving your expected bonus EV of $540.08.

Doing this manually would be tedious, but setting up a script to auto-run these spins is not difficult and results in an easy EV $540.


I've not calculated the SD or risk of ruin, but it should be relatively insignificant. Anyone want to add those calcs to this discussion?
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b

Was this bonus already credited or only after wagering? When I go into a casino game, I only see my original, cashable balance.
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b

If you click "My Account" and then the "Earned Bonus" tab you will see where the bonus is calculated. It is already available to you (if this was your first deposit) - it just needs to be cleared.
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b

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Was this bonus already credited or only after wagering? When I go into a casino game, I only see my original, cashable balance.

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Pretty sure it's not credited until you meet the WR.

and OP, I don't have time to run through your math, but if correct, NICE WORK!
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b

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I've not calculated the SD or risk of ruin, but it should be relatively insignificant.

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I think this needs more investigation. Keno itself can have very high variance. Not sure about the side bet you're talking about though.
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b

Right, most of the money is bet on the side bet which will have very low variance over 2179 spins.

The 3pick will have higher variance, but is much less significant.
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b

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Old 09-08-2006, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers b

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Right, most of the money is bet on the side bet which will have very low variance over 2179 spins.

The 3pick will have higher variance, but is much less significant.

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What is the SD of the side bet? Do you know? How do we find out?
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers bet)

One more point:

You don't really need a script to automate this. They have a "Play 10x" button which runs 10 spins for you. It's not tough to leave this up on a second monitor and press the 10spin button every 5 minutes or so while working on something else.

(I know some people are not comfortable with AHK scripts)

220 presses of that button and you are EV $540 richer.
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Easy bonus clearing with $540 EV at Mansion Keno (after Steelers bet)

Have u tried clearing it or is this just a theory?
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