Call it down?

[cfh]

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 5 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero ?

What do you guys think about the reraise on the flop? I didn´t believe him the flush.
On the turn should i reraise, call or fold?

[disco_stu1978]

I don't think I raise the flop here. I hate raising 3rd nut FD's, I don't mind showing it down cheap though.

I believe I C/C this down, and am ok with seeing an Ace or King of spades.

[Seven247]

With the the villian limping UTG without reads Im atleast giving him the the read of a solid player and would call this down for cheap with the 3rd flush. I don't like the raise on the flop, what would you have done if you had been reraised, at that point you would have overs, and just a 3rd flush draw to call with.

[BigBadBabar]

raise call call or call call call both work for me

bbb

[Smoke em']

Grunch

What do you have for reads on the villian? You said that you didn't believe him about the flush on the flop but when the fourth flush came on the turn he donked you, do you believe him now?

I think we need a general idea of villian's limping range to say for sure what the best play is. Would he limp AK? Would he limp As2s? There's a chance that his call on the flop was designed to trap you for big bets on the turn and river. Just be aware that your hand is as good as it's getting, you're drawing dead against a better hand and he's probably drawing dead if he has a worse hand.

I would call down at this point with no reads, there's a decent chance that you're going to win the hand. I'd be willing to believe he has something like J9s(note that he has a redraw with this specific hand) often enough that your 6.75-2 odds on a calldown are good enough. On the other hand, calling down here may be pissing money away.

[fabadam]

I'm assuming you have no reads at all on villain...

I don't see the point of raising the flop. You have a reasonable draw (9 outs to flush, about 3 to your overcards), call.

UTG can be betting top pair here, you're beaten only by the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Without reads it's hard to guess how aggressively he would bet TP or low flushes here.

I'd raise the turn. If he 3-bets, you can probably fold it.

[Smoke em']

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I'd raise the turn. If he 3-bets, you can probably fold it.

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I think that almost any worse hand folds to our raise, any better hand raises. If we're willing to spend 2 more bets on this hand, why not call down? Calling down costs the same as a turn raise but lets us see a showdown which removes the risk of folding the best hand.

[cfh]

This was the fifth hand of the villan. I havn`t seen him before. So no reads at all.
I would have folded on the flop if he would have reraised me.
On the turn i wasn´t sure if he has a K or an A.

[kerowo]

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This was the fifth hand of the villan. I havn`t seen him before. So no reads at all.
I would have folded on the flop if he would have reraised me.
On the turn i wasn´t sure if he has a K or an A.

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Without reads call down from the turn. Raising the flop is fairly common with a draw to the flush, lots of folks will donk a monotone flop after a pfr.

[Sushiglutton]

I like the flop raise. Call down from turn.