QQ What to do on the Turn?

cfh · #1 09-07-2006, 10:48 AM

No read on the raiser.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises, 4 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.5SB, 3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, CO folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero ???.

cfh · #2 09-07-2006, 10:57 AM

here the rest of the hand.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.25BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 12.25BB

He had K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Quester · #3 09-07-2006, 10:58 AM

Well against a fairly standard range of hands a decent player would raise UTG with, you still have an equity edge here. This turn is downright nasty for us, but I'd still want to take it to showdown. I think it's at least worth a call here with your overpair and gutshot. I'd call, and check/call the river (non-diamond).

Quester · #4 09-07-2006, 10:59 AM

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here the rest of the hand.

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You'd get way better answers if you didn't post this.

Befolder · #5 09-07-2006, 10:59 AM

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No read on the raiser.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises, 4 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.5SB, 3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, CO folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero ???.

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You call down at this point.

Most will tell you not to post results as it may influence some responses.

That turn give you a lot of reasons for concern, so calling down is fine after the turn raise.

ontiltsoon · #6 09-07-2006, 10:59 AM

That 9 of diamonds stinks. Without reads it's dificult to put him on a hand but if he is tight: AKd AQd AJd KQd. If he is a little more LAGish KJd, QJd QJ.

I tink I'm folding, calling down is -EV. He just woke up for a c/r on the Turn

Befolder · #7 09-07-2006, 11:06 AM

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That 9 of diamonds stinks. Without reads it's dificult to put him on a hand but if he is tight: AKd AQd AJd KQd. If he is a little more LAGish KJd, QJd QJ.

I tink I'm folding, calling down is -EV. He just woke up for a c/r on the Turn

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Folding is a big mistake. Our hand is quite possibly still good. Not having a read makes me more likely to call this down, that and I'm probably best.

Tortuga · #8 09-07-2006, 11:09 AM

Call turn raise. Check/Call on river.

This is not necessarily a made flush. He may be raising to protect his hand. Win or lose, take notes on what he raises with UTG.

davelin · #9 09-07-2006, 11:09 AM

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here the rest of the hand.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.25BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 12.25BB

He had K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

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If you want unadulterated advice you have to give us unadulterated hands.

ontiltsoon · #10 09-07-2006, 11:09 AM

Yes, but what made the guy c/r on the turn, that 9 must be completing someting.