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Old 09-07-2006, 08:29 AM
robracing robracing is offline
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Default Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

I have recently had Aces cracked so many times that over the last 2500 hands, I am actually showing a loss on the ten occasions that I have been dealt rockets.

The following hand occured this morning.

Am I especially weak and feeble?

Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) robracing is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, robracing calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls, robracing calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
robracing checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, Button folds, robracing folds, BB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

Did you not raise PF because you was scared of getting cracked again?
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

preflop is criminal. I sentence you to a prolonged losing streak of 10 more cracked aces.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

No, my failure to raise PF was a feeble attempt to disguise the strength of my hand, in anticipation of getting in some healthy Big Bet raises on later streets.

Accepting that this was a mistake PF, was my fold on the flop reasonable?
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

Why would UTG make a shutting out the field flop raise if he had trip Ks?

Why would you be looking to fold easily after you underrepresented your hand preflop?

Why wouldn't you cap preflop after the BB 3bets and you are closing the action? You already got extra action, just cap that [censored]. They they will think, "He cold-called and capped, lol, he just capped for the hell of it."
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

Preflop is ugly, flop isn't any better. You folded AA in
a 4-handed without betting or raising. And all this on 1/2
pokerroom, thre is no way you can trust the lunatics there
(unless you have a read you forgot to mention).
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

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No, my failure to raise PF was a feeble attempt to disguise the strength of my hand, in anticipation of getting in some healthy Big Bet raises on later streets.

Accepting that this was a mistake PF, was my fold on the flop reasonable?

[/ QUOTE ]

sorry, just a joke. couldn't help myself.

But still, I think that hiding the strength of your hand preflop is waaaay overrated. especially when it has already been raised. You have your opponents crushed right here right now. Rake in the sklansky bux! I sometimes understand limp-reraising on a butt-tight table, but how many of those do you see on 6-max ?

well, enough of that.

You've underrepresented your hand so now you have no idea on how to put their holdings in relation to yours, since you havent told them anything about your hand. All your options now are kinda fuzzy.

3-bet flop and bet-fold turn possibly. meh. its a toughh situation, i give you that.
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:29 AM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

3b PF.
bet/cap the flop, bet/call the turn, c/c the river.

I am -1.45BB/hand for my 11x AA over the last 2600 hands and even I don't play like this. The PF is clear, and UTG is a [censored] if he's playing trips like he wants people out the pot.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:08 AM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

3bet the flop. If UTG caps, then start calling down.

If you bet the turn, and it goes call, then raise, then you can fold.

If it goes raise, then C-c, then i don't know, figure it out.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Fold AA on the flop - Am I the Weakest Player Ever?

You can't fold this flop because you underrepresented the strength of your hand here. Pot is going to get big, I don't see what's wrong with calling down.
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