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Old 09-06-2006, 08:45 PM
grand_hust1e grand_hust1e is offline
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Default 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

Villain is unknown, is this an easy river call?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($46.97)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($206.50)</font>
UTG ($200)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($143.96)</font>
Button ($101.24)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. UTG posts a blind of $2.
UTG (poster) checks, MP calls $2, Button calls $2, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($10) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $7, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($24) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, MP calls $15.

River: ($54) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $56</font>, Hero calls $28.

Final Pot: $166
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Old 09-06-2006, 08:48 PM
Colombo Colombo is offline
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

c/c the river.
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:00 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

I'd raise preflop

On the river, I'd bet more or c/c. As played, you should fold
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:27 PM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

even getting 5:1? only needs to be good 16% to break even.
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:41 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

I'd raise prelfop.

Bet more on the turn.

i think leading river is fine. i'd call his miniraise...i've seen players do this with a missed draw.
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

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I'd raise preflop

On the river I'd bet more or c/c.

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Old 09-06-2006, 09:55 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

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even getting 5:1? only needs to be good 16% to break even.

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I've never seen this play by a hand we beat here. not even 5% of the time
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:57 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

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even getting 5:1? only needs to be good 16% to break even.

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I've never seen this play by a hand we beat here. not even 5% of the time

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I've seen it with a busted draw. Also don't you think any better hand (except for a two pair on the river) raises the turn because of the flush draw?
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:59 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

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even getting 5:1? only needs to be good 16% to break even.

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I've never seen this play by a hand we beat here. not even 5% of the time

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I've seen it with a busted draw. Also don't you think any better hand (except for a two pair on the river) raises the turn because of the flush draw?

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judging by his not so full stack and his river minraise, I don't give this opponent credit for being able to think logically, so he could easily have any bettere hand at any point.

I used to call these river mr a bunch and I never saw a busted draw. Cool, your experience is different, i can only give my experience though.
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: 200nl 6 max AQs vs river min raise

River min-raises are almost never bluffs (like less than 3%). He has AQ beat. Fold
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