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#1
09-06-2006, 06:49 PM
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($60 turbo) yuck
Guy is 60/0 after 5 hands
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter SB (t1290) BB (t1410) UTG (t1530) UTG+1 (t2030) MP1 (t1230) MP2 (t1675) MP3 (t1450) Hero (t1435) Button (t1450) Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls t120, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t1230</font>, Hero calls t1080, UTG folds. 
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#2
09-06-2006, 06:55 PM
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Re: ($60 turbo) yuck
I would have to feel that the guy is very horrible and very loose to make this call. The limp reraise by a bad player often is a sign of strength and getting all the chips in now does not seem like a good idea.
Raising to 150 is fine of course, but I have been limping JJ for the first couple of blind levels and it seems to keep me out of trouble. By playing JJ this way it is easier to get away from the hand and play it more for it's set value.
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#4
09-06-2006, 07:04 PM
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Re: ($60 turbo) yuck
Playing JJ for set value when you have a great opportunity to have position is a leak IMO. I will limp JJ when I'm in very early position at a full table in the early levels occasionally, but not when I can get myself in position.
Durron, is your raise standard for you there? 150 seems like an awful lot, but maybe not by much. Seems like 120 is enough to accomplish your goals here. After the reraise, I think its a close decision. I've made a few of these calls recently where the limp/pusher was behind other limpers and I've seen AA, 55, and JJ.
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#5
09-06-2006, 07:06 PM
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Re: ($60 turbo) yuck
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Guy is 60/0 after 5 hands [/ QUOTE ] Eh. The fact that he hasn't raised for 5 whole hands doesn't interest me that much. He likes to limp a lot, and now he's seen an opportunity to take down the pot. He can definitely have QQ+ here, but he can also have AT, 66, and even the occasional 87s here.
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#6
09-06-2006, 07:17 PM
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Re: ($60 turbo) yuck
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Playing JJ for set value when you have a great opportunity to have position is a leak IMO. I will limp JJ when I'm in very early position at a full table in the early levels occasionally, but not when I can get myself in position. Durron, is your raise standard for you there? 150 seems like an awful lot, but maybe not by much. Seems like 120 is enough to accomplish your goals here. After the reraise, I think its a close decision. I've made a few of these calls recently where the limp/pusher was behind other limpers and I've seen AA, 55, and JJ. [/ QUOTE ] 3 BB + 1 BB / limper? I don't think 30 chips is a huge deal here, the call is the big thing
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#7
09-06-2006, 07:20 PM
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Re: ($60 turbo) yuck
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Guy is 60/0 after 5 hands PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter SB (t1290) BB (t1410) UTG (t1530) UTG+1 (t2030) MP1 (t1230) MP2 (t1675) MP3 (t1450) Hero (t1435) Button (t1450) Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls t120, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t1230</font>, Hero calls t1080, UTG folds. [/ QUOTE ] Seems standard to me. You see a crappy ace or lower pocket pair way more than you see QQ,KK,AA at least from an unknown. rvg
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#9
09-06-2006, 07:48 PM
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Re: ($60 turbo) yuck
I'd call. Any player that limps behind another player here with a big pair is an idiot so his range is definitely big.
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