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Old 09-05-2006, 07:41 PM
Marnixvdb Marnixvdb is offline
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Default i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

I've been playing pretty LAG but haven't shown down real akward stuff. What do you put him on and how likely is my hand still best?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $550.35
CO: $846
Button: $240
SB: $602.30
Hero: $1365.05

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $24</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($72, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $72</font>, UTG folds, SB calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($216, 3 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($216, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $108</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:28 PM
wazz wazz is offline
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

Based on what we know, I'd give you 25-1 on him bluffing a missed draw like 7 9 J Q, and about the same on 8 10 x x
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

ya call doesnt look too bad. bout the same as callin with 2rd pair in hold'em.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

I don't understand how the SB suddenly has position on you.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

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I don't understand how the SB suddenly has position on you.

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They played musical chairs after the flop was dealt.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:54 PM
Marnixvdb Marnixvdb is offline
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

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I don't understand how the SB suddenly has position on you.

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converter messed up. There was no SB posted in this hand because someone busted in the previous one. So where it says SB in the OP it should have said Button.
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Old 09-05-2006, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

Probabally a bluff or something with a duece... maybe 2 pair. Sucks if he is bluffing with the NFD draw though. If he is straight forward though he probabally checks behind hoping his A is good unless his kicker really sucks.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

Why not bet the turn, you have enough outs to call a reraise?
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:18 AM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

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Why not bet the turn, you have enough outs to call a reraise?

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because that would suck?

you win this way too rarely, even his bluffs mostly have an ace.

edit: although I pretty much suck at PLO, but then again I can't be *that* wrong about the bluff part...
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Old 09-06-2006, 03:49 PM
Marnixvdb Marnixvdb is offline
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Default Re: i have the 2138123th nuts. Call river?

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Why not bet the turn, you have enough outs to call a reraise?

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I didnt want to bet turn, i already regretted my flop bet slightly right when i made it. Obviously i have a good hand, but if i'm getting it in on the flop i am very often against the nutflush draw, and that draw already has my pair beat and leaves me drawing pretty thin. Then again, two pair, straigt wraps or a set probably raise often enough to make the flopbet right. It's kind of edgy though.

I wanted to check/raise turn, or see it checked through, both seemed fine for me. Bet turn is the worst option I think, then check/call which seems a bit weak.

When he bet on the river, it was pretty clear he didn't have an ace: the Ace high flush draw raises the flop, and other aces check this river for sure.

Results: he showed K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and MHIG
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