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Old 09-04-2006, 04:58 AM
Optisizer Optisizer is offline
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Default Dealer informs of pot size

At the NL tables at my local casino the dealers keep informing the players about the size of the pot when they ask. I keep telling them they shouldn't as keeping track of the pot is an important skill of the game (as is keeping track of any stack or pile of chips around the table), but they keep doing it. I have tried to find something mentioned about this in Robert's rules, but have come up short. What is corect???
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:55 AM
Howard Beale Howard Beale is offline
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At the NL tables at my local casino the dealers keep informing the players about the size of the pot when they ask. I keep telling them they shouldn't as keeping track of the pot is an important skill of the game (as is keeping track of any stack or pile of chips around the table), but they keep doing it. I have tried to find something mentioned about this in Robert's rules, but have come up short. What is corect???

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You should ask the floor people at your casino what the rule is at that casino.
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:31 PM
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What is corect???

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Depends on the rule at the cardroom in question. General rule is that a dealer should not be announcing pot size unless it's a pot limit game.
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:40 PM
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At the NL tables at my local casino the dealers keep informing the players about the size of the pot when they ask. I keep telling them they shouldn't as keeping track of the pot is an important skill of the game (as is keeping track of any stack or pile of chips around the table), but they keep doing it. I have tried to find something mentioned about this in Robert's rules, but have come up short. What is corect???

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It's not standard procedure to identify the pot size, players are supposed to do that in all games except pot limit when betting pot. It's possible the casino's dealer coordinator/trainer doesn't understand this and would change the procedure if made aware.

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Old 09-04-2006, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: Dealer informs of pot size

Is there a reason it's a bad thing? The OP sauid "it's an important skill", but there's no inherent reason it has to be (it's not crucial to the rules of NL poker).

Obviously, it probably helps the fish (which we consider bad), but I don't see an obvious reason for the dealers not to be doing this.

Anyone care to explain?

Onnel
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Old 09-04-2006, 03:50 PM
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Is there a reason it's a bad thing?



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Slows the game down.
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Old 09-04-2006, 04:03 PM
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It's not that important of a skill, it's like "counting outs"

If you know how to play card games for monies, you can probably do it well.
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Old 09-04-2006, 04:06 PM
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At most reputable houses, a dealer cannot say the pot amount unles it is a PL game. I agree with this rule, however, all huses are different.
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Old 09-04-2006, 04:52 PM
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Is there a reason it's a bad thing? The OP sauid "it's an important skill", but there's no inherent reason it has to be (it's not crucial to the rules of NL poker).

Obviously, it probably helps the fish (which we consider bad), but I don't see an obvious reason for the dealers not to be doing this.

Anyone care to explain?

Onnel

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Its violative of the one Player to a hand rule. A hand of poker consists of the entirety of the situation -- every player has the opportunity to keep track of the pot and is not entitled top have asisstance from others in doing so. Similarly a dealer should not identify who raised in an earlier round. Part of the game is keeping track of what has happened.
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:08 PM
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FWIW Foxwoods dealers seem to flout this when asked to stack the pot, count the pot, etc.

Small sample of N=2 or 3, though.
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