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#1
08-31-2006, 04:54 PM
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QQ/KK getting c-r/r on the turn
These two hands confused me. I had no idea where I was.
Should I be raising somewhere? Folding? Or is it ok to just hope for the best, call down and take notes? BB is 54/7/1.1 (large sample), semi-insane LAG, overplaying his cards. Prima Poker skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $1/$2 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 4 folds, BB calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls. River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: 9.25BB Button is 44/13/1.2 over a small sample, and he hadn't done anything insane that I had noticed. Prima Poker skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $1/$2 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds. Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.25BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero calls. River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8.25BB, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: 10.25BB 
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#3
08-31-2006, 04:59 PM
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Re: QQ/KK getting c-r/r on the turn
i can live with a 3bet on hand 1 based on reads, but 3betting hand 2 is absolutely not good.
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#4
08-31-2006, 05:06 PM
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Re: QQ/KK getting c-r/r on the turn
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i can live with a 3bet on hand 1 based on reads, but 3betting hand 2 is absolutely not good. [/ QUOTE ] your right TJ/ JQ / JK / JA deserve to see the river for only 2bb more. True
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#5
08-31-2006, 05:09 PM
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Re: QQ/KK getting c-r/r on the turn
im right because J9 T8 97s 99 77 and 33 are in this player's range.
we can only win one bet from the hands you list whereas we can lose two to the ones i list.
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#6
08-31-2006, 05:12 PM
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Re: QQ/KK getting c-r/r on the turn
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im right because J9 T8 97s 99 77 and 33 are in this player's range. we can only win one bet from the hands you list whereas we can lose two to the ones i list. [/ QUOTE ] J-xc / 9-xc / T-xc and to a lessor extent y-xc. True
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#8
08-31-2006, 05:23 PM
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Re: QQ/KK getting c-r/r on the turn
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im right because J9 T8 97s 99 77 and 33 are in this player's range. we can only win one bet from the hands you list whereas we can lose two to the ones i list. [/ QUOTE ] J9 - 9, T8 - 16, 97s - 2, 99 77 33 - 9. In total this is like 36 combinations, not all of them will repop here. JQJKJAJTJ8 - 60 already, not to add club combos. True
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#9
08-31-2006, 05:23 PM
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Re: QQ/KK getting c-r/r on the turn
i definitely agree with true on these ones, I would 3b the first one, and in hand 2 if i'm ever calling the raise it's to c/r the river and that sucks compared to b/3b, b.
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#10
08-31-2006, 05:25 PM
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Re: QQ/KK getting c-r/r on the turn
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[ QUOTE ] im right because J9 T8 97s 99 77 and 33 are in this player's range. we can only win one bet from the hands you list whereas we can lose two to the ones i list. [/ QUOTE ] J-xc / 9-xc / T-xc and to a lessor extent y-xc. True [/ QUOTE ] haahhahahahahahahaha
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