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Old 08-30-2006, 02:30 AM
0evg0 0evg0 is offline
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Just moved to table, only read is that BB is pretty loose postflop with both bets and calls. No examples to be shared though.

100/200

Hero: 13k
SB: 6k
BB: 11k
UTG 8.5k

Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the Button

UTG calls, 2 fold, MP2 calls, 3 fold, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop is J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot is 1000)

SB checks, BB bets 200, UTG raises to 400, MP2 folds, Hero ???
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:45 AM
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A gorgeous flop that's gonna give you VD. I fold. Bad spot for a raise. Implied odds on a call's ehh because you don't know what the minbetter's doing.

Edited to show my work.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:31 AM
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hmm..well I'm never folding here. Do you think UTG likes his hand enough that he will continue if a scare card comes? Probably not.

I raise to 3k with the intent to call a push.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:31 AM
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flat call and incourage more action behind you...
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:53 AM
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How about....

"Flop OESF draw, facing a min-bet and a min-raise...What's my line?"
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:04 AM
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How about....

"Flop OESF draw, facing a min-bet and a min-raise...What's my line?"

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AWESOME. Thanks for the help.

And in case anyone isn't sure, one of these two obv have the As. At least that's my read.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:04 AM
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hmm..well I'm never folding here. Do you think UTG likes his hand enough that he will continue if a scare card comes? Probably not.

I raise to 3k with the intent to call a push.

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Why? You can't count on the other spades often enough, and the other nines might get you a chop at best.

Am I missing something here other than that it's a straight flush draw?
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:06 AM
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flat call and incourage more action behind you...

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I likey this line. Cheap cheap.

Let's go pot control for now, these guys seem to like offering great odds, let's take 'em.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:07 AM
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And in case anyone isn't sure, one of these two obv have the As. At least that's my read.

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How is that your read? Marked cards?
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:14 AM
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Fortuna, any Ace also gives us a straight.

r_m, this is fairly low-limit and donks go nuts for the As. Of course they could have AT and KK, but I'm just saying I expect one (or both?!?!) to have the nut draw a lot.
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