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Old 08-29-2006, 11:30 PM
Mig Mig is offline
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Default Small project going about party high stake - Part 1

Hi,

2 weeks ago, I decided to merge all my 100/200 hands and 50/100 hands in 1 DB in order to have a better state of the game on party and have a better idea on who the winners/losers are and why ... I also wanted to know how much niamin was down lifetime [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

So I started importing my hands. Asked some of my 2+2 friends and players friends to help me in that quest. Now after 1 1/2 week importing hands full time I'm having a better idea.

I now have a huge database which is including 1,4 Million of hands from 50+. That's great you would say but still it's not nearly enough to have a good idea. For now I only have 30 names with over 50k hands which is not enough in my opinion to narrow something usefull from that. But we are not far.

During the next few days/weeks I'm going to post screen shots that most people would find interesting about the 50+ game on party. But before I post I'd like to see if someone else would be willing to share HHs with me. Either observed or played. This will really help improve the accuracy of that stuff. I want you to know that I am trustworthy and won't share any hands for any reason to anyone. This won't be for sale. The loop starts with me and ends with me.

With some supports of the regular posters, maybe we will be able too have some interesting discussion about optimal opening range/steal/blind defense. I know that some of you don't find any useful conversations going for high stake lately, so here is your opportunity to make things change.

So whoever wants to help msg me with contacts informations and I'll get to you as soon as possible.
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Small project going about party high stake - Part 1

This strikes me as highly unethical and I would hope that 2+2 would not facilitate this.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:01 AM
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This strikes me as highly unethical and I would hope that 2+2 would not facilitate this.

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I didn't feel comfortable sending my database, and I agree with you.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:02 AM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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This strikes me as highly unethical and I would hope that 2+2 would not facilitate this.

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Yeah, me too. Although, I'm exactly 2 days away from being able to make a name change.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Small project going about party high stake - Part 1

I disagree with you guys and think Mig has no bad intentions for this. That said my perspective is as someone who intends to be in these games in the not-too-distant future and the more info. the better, so I realize there is a bit of selfishness in that opinion.

-DeathDonkey
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:16 AM
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I disagree with you guys and think Mig has no bad intentions for this. That said my perspective is as someone who intends to be in these games in the not-too-distant future and the more info. the better, so I realize there is a bit of selfishness in that opinion.

-DeathDonkey

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Good luck, Double D. You can take my seat.

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Old 08-30-2006, 12:23 AM
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I disagree with you guys and think Mig has no bad intentions for this. That said my perspective is as someone who intends to be in these games in the not-too-distant future and the more info. the better, so I realize there is a bit of selfishness in that opinion.

-DeathDonkey

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I fully trust Mig, but you have to understand that such a database is literally worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:32 AM
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I disagree with you guys and think Mig has no bad intentions for this. That said my perspective is as someone who intends to be in these games in the not-too-distant future and the more info. the better, so I realize there is a bit of selfishness in that opinion.

-DeathDonkey

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I fully trust Mig, but you have to understand that such a database is literally worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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ya, but its not any more unethical that what already goes on (pt, pa, hand discussion, player discussion)
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:47 AM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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I disagree with you guys and think Mig has no bad intentions for this. That said my perspective is as someone who intends to be in these games in the not-too-distant future and the more info. the better, so I realize there is a bit of selfishness in that opinion.

-DeathDonkey

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I fully trust Mig, but you have to understand that such a database is literally worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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To an individual user? I think it's only a small fraction of that.
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: Small project going about party high stake - Part 1

As a player in these games I don't think talking about the overall state of the game is unethical. On the other hand to dissect individuals and how they play IMO would be wrong. But things like the biggest winners, I don't see any problem with that.
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