Wow, no wonder everyone hates shortstacks in NL

Xellos · #1 08-29-2006, 06:18 AM

Shortstacking is like a money tree. Retards give their money away to shortstacks like it's going out of style. Just played a 120 hand extended Dids session of 1/2 NL minbuying. Lost 2 "buyins" with AQ vs AK and a top pair and straight and flush draw from a free big blind against a made straight and higher flush draw. Ended up about 4 "buyins". People call off $40 with 66 on a 54Q monotone flop after I raised to $20 preflop with TT. YES I RAISED TO TWENTY DOLLARS PREFLOP BECAUSE THERE WERE 7 LIMPS AND I STILL GOT TWO CALLS AND STILL WON AFTER I GOT CALLED ON THE FLOP. I had K8 reraise my $10 or $8 or whatever pfr vs my AK and we get it in and he loses. $160 obviously isn't that much money, I just can't believe how moronic these guys are.

If tonight's experiment is any indication of how poorly the already retarded players in NL adjust to shortstacks, you ballas can expect to see me ruining your 10-20 NL games very soon. The biggest problem so far is that it's boring and I have trouble playing more than 4 tables when I have to quit a table to rathole my precious winnings after some idiot donates to me.

catalyst · #2 08-29-2006, 06:22 AM

that's great, but don't post this kind of stuff, you are just influencing others to do the same and further ruin the action in these games

tom10167 · #3 08-29-2006, 06:23 AM

Nice run man, however, from what what I understand you suck at taking shots, so I'd imagine you'll be back at the 1-2NL soon enough.

Xellos · #4 08-29-2006, 06:24 AM

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that's great, but don't post this kind of stuff, you are just influencing others to do the same and further ruin the action in these games

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Don't worry, in all likelihood I will lose like 20 buyins tomorrow doing this and get bored of it and make a long, boring complain post here in BBV.

tom10167 · #5 08-29-2006, 06:26 AM

Please post sick hands. I can't wait now.

Xellos · #6 08-29-2006, 06:31 AM

Okay, just a few of the ones I mentioned in OP because of how funny they are to me:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($42)
BB ($217.05)
UTG ($338)
UTG+1 ($113)
MP1 ($87.65)
MP2 ($196)
Hero ($28)
CO ($281.70)
Button ($192.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
4 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, 1 fold, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $20 (All-In), Button folds, BB calls $14.

Flop: ($65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($65) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($65) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $65

Results in white below: 
BB has Kc 8h (one pair, tens).
Hero has Kd Ad (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $60. BB wins $5. 

Flop wasn't monotone on this one, I lied:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($193.85)
UTG+1 ($180.30)
UTG+2 ($134.75)
MP1 ($112.19)
MP2 ($92.29)
MP3 ($98.72)
CO ($180)
Button ($316.79)
SB ($225.30)
Hero ($37)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2, MP3 calls $2, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $18, UTG+1 calls $18, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $18, CO folds, Button folds.

Flop: ($67) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero calls $17 (All-In), UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls $17.

Turn: ($101) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($101) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $101

Results in white below: 
Hero has Tc Th (two pair, tens and fours).
MP3 has 6c 6h (two pair, sixes and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins $101. 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($188.85)
CO ($139.45)
Button ($131.75)
SB ($179.41)
BB ($122.74)
UTG ($78)
UTG+1 ($302.79)
MP1 ($218.30)
Hero ($96.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 3 folds, SB (poster) calls $9, 1 fold, UTG calls $8.

Flop: ($32) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $8, Hero raises to $35, SB folds, UTG calls $60 (All-In), Hero calls $33.

Turn: ($168) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($168) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $168

Results in white below: 
UTG has Ac 8c (one pair, aces).
Hero has Ah Qc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $168. 

AJ is probably a fold but I'm just learning how to be a scumbag shortstacker:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($37)
CO ($169.51)
Button ($93.40)
SB ($209.60)
BB ($224.65)
UTG ($130.35)
UTG+1 ($84.80)
MP1 ($44.64)
MP2 ($62.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, MP1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 3 folds, BB calls $5, MP1 calls $5.

Flop: ($22) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls $10, MP1 calls $10.

Turn: ($52) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero calls $20 (All-In), BB folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: $72

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins $72.

Jehaim · #7 08-29-2006, 06:32 AM

You summed it up nicely:

- money tree
- boring
- difficult playing many tables because of ratholing
- lose 20 buyins with AK vs AQ, AK vs KQ, etc = tehsuck
- you're basically playing a donkament = you play only preflop and on flop and on the flop you're often pot-committed.

Xellos · #8 08-29-2006, 06:34 AM

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- you're basically playing a donkament

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Yeah this is one of the worst beats, but at least I can quit this donkament at any time, which is good, because I got bored of it really fast tonight.

I even managed to escape one huge trap with my expert YEEHAW NO LIMIT TEXAS HOLDEM postflop play in this hand, though my stack was somewhat deeper than I thought:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($59.76)
BB ($174.34)
UTG ($330.37)
MP1 ($83.85)
MP2 ($190)
Hero ($71.20)
Button ($198.13)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP1 raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, BB calls $13, MP1 calls $11.

Flop: ($46) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($46) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets $5, Hero folds, BB calls $5.

River: ($56) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: $56

Results in white below: 
BB has As 7d (two pair, aces and sevens).
MP1 has Qs Kd (two pair, queens and fours).
Outcome: BB wins $56. 

I would have pulled the awesome suckout on the river, but that's not the point.

Jehaim · #9 08-29-2006, 06:36 AM

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AJ is probably a fold but I'm just learning how to be a scumbag shortstacker.

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FR i say yes.

tom10167 · #10 08-29-2006, 06:37 AM

At least you make money in this donkament.