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Old 08-29-2006, 01:45 AM
Duerig Duerig is offline
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Default PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

Both villains in this hand were total maniacs. I stacked one earlier with a set vs A high (100 BB went in on the flop). Since then though, I have been really tight. I was pretty sure top pair would be good here and I didn't want to give these guys a chance to pair their overcards cheap. Is this a decent spot to put $$ in?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($58.90)
Hero ($84.50)
SB ($48.50)
BB ($5.95)
UTG ($10)
MP ($115.03)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($6.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

against maniacs i just call.

they are calling all raises with their draws and they'll keep betting with A6 if you let them. Your hand is marginal at best. might as well keep the pot small
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

given that read, I might try to get a little FPS and minraise to induce a push.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

He needs to be really insane for this to be for value with close to 200bb.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

good point i didnt notice the deepish stacks. Raise to like 17 and fold to a 3 bet i guess.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

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good point i didnt notice the deepish stacks. Raise to like 17 and fold to a 3 bet i guess.

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Don't bluff with made hands vs maniacs.
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

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Don't bluff with made hands vs maniacs.

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This was my thought, and why I wasn't sure about this hand. But what if a K falls on the turn and there's a bet and a call ahead of me? There are a lot of cards that scare me and I wanted to take this pot down or at least charge them to draw.
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

You can play just to get their stacks. Let them pick up the small pots, they don't play well enough to not stack off extremely light when you know you have them beat.
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Old 08-29-2006, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

If these guys are real mo mos like you say, then yes, this is an excellent spot ot put money in. His bet is probably just a c-bet adn the co is probably fishing as well, it looks like a good spot to take down the pot, if he calls, push the turn.
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Old 08-29-2006, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: PP 50 NL 6 max T9s

they both can have a draw hand or a bad hand, so I think that the flop raise is ok

In certain circumtances the only call will be better, but in this hand its better to push right now. Too many card will scare hero on turn if he only call the flop and he will play in the dark when their opponent will bet...

You have a good chances to have the better hand right now and a lot of hand worse than yours can call you, so I say: good raise!
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