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Old 08-29-2006, 12:05 AM
GMan42 GMan42 is offline
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Default JJ, top set/scary flop

I'm a total NL newbie, so be as brutal as necessary.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$25) <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $1.00</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00.

Turn: ($6.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: ($6.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.00</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $10.10
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:10 AM
cata1yst cata1yst is offline
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Default Re: JJ, top set/scary flop

This flop sucks. Your flop play is fine. I think you need to bet about $5 on this turn and if you are raised highly consider folding.

River is fine.
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:12 AM
Keys Myaths Keys Myaths is offline
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Default Re: JJ, top set/scary flop

Raise the flop.

Heads up, it's rare you're beaten here. Just because there's a few hands out there that can beat you doesn't mean villain has them.
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: JJ, top set/scary flop

Raise the flop for sure! He can have AA KK QQ AK AQ

In these hands only AKs and AQs beat you, but each can outdraw you with one diamond in his hand, and he might call you for a big amount with AK AQ (with one diamond in each both hand). And you will stack you opponent if he have AA KK QQ with one diamond.

raise flop and bet turn
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: JJ, top set/scary flop

Thanks all for the advice. I think up to now, I've been playing with a bit too much fear of being stacked (I'm sure I'll get over this after a few thousand NL hands). If I raise the flop a reasonable amount and he pushes, should it be an automatic call? (I had about $30 to start the hand, and villain had me covered.)
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:38 AM
DaveRockNo20 DaveRockNo20 is offline
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Default Re: JJ, top set/scary flop

I dont respect enough my weak lowlimit opponents to fold with a so drawable flop like that with a hand so strong.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:40 AM
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Villain is opening to 4xbb from utg+1 in ten handed game. Your hand is very strong on this flop vs a normal utg+1 range and should be played as such.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:40 AM
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I pot every street with the intention of going all in. You beat so much here.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:44 AM
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I pot every street with the intention of going all in. You beat so much here.

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werd.
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: JJ, top set/scary flop

[ QUOTE ]
I'm a total NL newbie, so be as brutal as necessary.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$25) <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $1.00</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00.

Turn: ($6.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: ($6.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.00</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $10.10

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Bet out or c/r.
Be prepared to go all-in.
Very passive play from you.
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