PLO8 - Scoop draw on Flop/Turn, worth your stack?

[ZenMusician]

Assume: PLO8 ~$25

Under what conditions is it generally correct to push scoop draws?

For example:

On the Flop you have: A234 AND Asss (or top set); you raise and get RR AI

On the Turn you have: A234 AND Asss (or top set); you raise and get RR AI

I am interested also on exactly what changes (if at all) due to # of opponents,
stack sizes, reads, tendencies, etc.

Thanks

-ZEN

[ZenMusician]

Great...I'm THAT guy!

I guess this was a stupid question and the answer is "always".

If I ask when NOT to push could I get a reply?

-ZEN

[zizazziza]

whats the hell is Asss?

[Split Suit]

i could tell you when not to push. but if you have a strong scoop draw on the flop, always push. like NFD and NLD....always get it in (unless board is paired).

[ZenMusician]

[ QUOTE ]
whats the hell is Asss?

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Ace suited...suited... (four cards to nut flush).

The question is, when you have both nut draws is it correct to
push every time: A.) on the flop - and/or B.) on the turn.

Sorry for the ambiguity, I'm an asss!

-ZEN

[ZenMusician]

Yeah...

I have been pushing all my situations like this:

A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on a board of:

K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

and :

K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on a board of

K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I don't want to be results oriented, so I am asking if experienced
PLO8 players here (consider lower buy-ins) always get it AI
in these situations (even if HU).

I really appreciate any help.

-ZEN

[Kuso]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah...

I have been pushing all my situations like this:

A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on a board of:

K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

and :

K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on a board of

K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I don't want to be results oriented, so I am asking if experienced
PLO8 players here (consider lower buy-ins) always get it AI
in these situations (even if HU).

I really appreciate any help.

-ZEN

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the first hand is the stuff of plo8 wet dreams. the second hand is good, but there could be a case for not getting it all in (e.g., sometimes you can guess that there's a good chance someone has AAxx perhaps with a diamond draw).