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Old 08-28-2006, 01:18 PM
Heine Heine is offline
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Default flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

no reads on villian has seen 45% of the flops in 10 hands

anyone advocate a smooth call on the end? I was a little weary of raising. Is this value raise a little thin?


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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $46.70
CO: $30.35
Button: $102.05
SB: $38
Heine: $49.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Heine is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Heine checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.5, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Heine bets $1.5</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Heine bets $3</font>, UTG calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Heine bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $19</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Heine ???? </font>,
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Old 08-28-2006, 01:22 PM
Frostie Frostie is offline
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

Smooth call this... only AJ beats you. He played it like AJ though... but I can't fold this.
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Old 08-28-2006, 01:46 PM
JustToast JustToast is offline
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

Call, no way theres a fold here anywhere. He could be "slowplaying" KK/QQ/JJ, two pair as well as AJ and J9.

Pushing on the other hand is debatable.
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Old 08-28-2006, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

i push.
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Old 08-28-2006, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

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i push.

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Old 08-28-2006, 02:23 PM
avfletch avfletch is offline
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

Personally I'd rule out KK/QQ because there was no raise preflop.

I'd rule out the two pair hands because he didn't raise the turn.

I'm expecting to see TT/J9/AJ or some kind of random air hand way more than any of the two categories above.

I'd play it the same way and call the bet at the end.
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Old 08-28-2006, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

The way this hand went I think that you are probably ahead on the river, I think an AJ would have warranted a raise before the flop. However, since he has been playing quite a few hands IMO a flat call would be good. He could have something like QT, or KT, I think a KQ would have been raised before the flop. If I calculated right you are getting around 3-1 on your money on the river so I think a call might be good because you only need to win 1/4 times to break even so if you think you are ahead that often I would call. I hope this is right lol.
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Old 08-28-2006, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

If you had Villain as a 45 VPIP through a couple hundred hands then this could easily be something like K6, or maybe even Q6. There's still a good chance that it is K6 or Q6. Could also be a flopped 2 pair, but that's a little less likely. I probably push and expect Villain to instacall with a rivered two pair. If he flopped the nuts, tough beat.
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

i pushed.

There was some awesome level 0 thinking by villian in this hand.

He TURBO called my AI. Only to turn over KQs and MHIG

I'm glad a couple people aggreed with my push. I thought it would be silly not to push here. Monsters under the bed is bad.

I think villian plays the set/twopair/AJ the same way. not getting it all in seems silly.
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: flopped straight, Raise out of no where on river

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i push.

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