Standard KK laydown?

[pokerman37]

Standard? no reads.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($59.01)
MP ($0)
Button ($209.86)
Hero ($173.60)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $9</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $6.

Flop: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $70</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $105

[ErnieSIrwin]

No way am I laying KK here. Almost seems like he's playing QQ or AT really hard in an attempt to either force you off the pot, or protect TPTK from getting flushed out on.

If I had a read, maybe, but since you don't here, I have to call or push ontop of him. You're playing 6 Max with someone in position.

-Ernie S. Irwin

[wall_st]

Why would he play a set this fast ? Have you been overplaying your overpairs against villan, if so this line makes sense for a set but he could do this with as weak as a ten or flush draw.

[Fallen Hero]

With no reads I'm not playing a 400bb pot here (if he turns out to be a donk I'll be glad to play a big pot with him in a similar situation).
With a normal stack I'm pushing a big raise on this flop.

[Fallen Hero]

AA or a big draw is a much bigger concern

[ErnieSIrwin]

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With no reads I'm not playing a 400bb pot here (if he turns out to be a donk I'll be glad to play a big pot with him in a similar situation).
With a normal stack I'm pushing a big raise on this flop.

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Good point, Fallen. That push would have eliminated all of the other hard decisions he had, and all of the second guessing.

BTW, I'm a new poster (usually over at MTT), but I've been reading for a few months. Always enjoy your thoughts.

-Ernie S. Irwin

[younghov17]

id only be worried about 2 things. does he call a reraise with tt, and does he flat call a reraise with aa as opposed to reraising it. id say 65% of the time ur beat at this point.

[cbiz]

the only draw you are behind to is J9s which I dont see raising or calling you re-raise. Also a set isn't very likely but is still possible Im mostly worried about seeing AA here as it is very plausible the villian would smooth-call your re-raise with position. With 100 BB i would just go ahead and stick it in, with these big stacks i would let this one go.

[PoBoy321]

I prefer a slightly larger bet pre-flop, say to $12, because it makes it a little bit easier to play post-flop since you're OOP.

Also, a read would be helpful, but I think that the only hands you are behind are AA and TT, while JJ and QQ could easily raise this flop, since your 3/4 pot get could be read as a missed AK.

[Ness]

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Why would he play a set this fast ? Have you been overplaying your overpairs against villan, if so this line makes sense for a set but he could do this with as weak as a ten or flush draw.

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Depending on a few variables, I will play a set and Jc9c the same way here (sometimes).