Spots like these always have me wondering.

[TonyG_]

I seem to keep getting in situations like this and am always unsure of what the best way to proceed is. Anyone have a default for this or does it always depend on the opponent?



Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $616.30
Hero: $865
Button: $588
SB: $585
BB: $665.71

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($49, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $100</font>.
Uncalled bets: $60 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $129


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $363.55
UTG+1: $582.30
CO: $40.85
Button: $516
SB: $315.40
BB: $107.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($38, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $77</font>.
Uncalled bets: $53 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $86

[Keepitsimple]

If its a frequent occurence I think you can 3-bet hand 1 to 280 and call an allin.

[wslee00]

hand 1 is read dependent, but that board is pretty dry. An aggro opponent could be raising w/ just a 9 here and would have a tough time calling a 3-bet. However, against your standard opponent, he will probably have something that will call a 3-bet from you. Unless you are willing to follow your 3bet with another bet on the turn, I think you should just call. Folding is *weak* here imo. He made a minimum raise and is giving you good odds to continue. You will probably stack him if you hit your straight.

Hand 2 is a little bit different as some broadway cards flopped and there's two hearts out there. Some of your outs are tainted, and we could lose a big pot here even when we hit our straight, so I can find a fold.

[aceswild83]

hand 1 I think I would just call but with a read that he does this as a bluff or to find out where he is I might 3bet.

hand 2 I don't like 3 betting. I think it's close between folding and calling. Your outs are a bit tainted but assuming you could stack him ~90% of the time you could call even counting only 6 outs. I usually call in these situations but i'm not sure if it's +ev.

[HP]

Dude, don't fold in hand 1 !

hand 2 I don't have a default line

[AK47Suited]

I like both folds

[TonyG_]

My actions arent shown in either hand, the converter is just kind of weird i guess but these arent me folding.

[HP]

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I like both folds

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dude, WTF???

getting better than 3-1 odds on the flop call, and having 8 outs to like the super awesomest most conceled nuts

??

at least do it for shania and the love of the gamble, jeez

edit: in regards to hand 1

[all_in_lam]

hand 1: call or raise if you think you have fold equity.
board is rainbow and u are drawing to nuts.

hand 2: fold. bigger raise, more drawy and thus less FE and your non-nut draw sucks

[ITILTEZ]

Hand 1: Folding is terrible. Reraise if you do that with any made hands or just call.

Hand 2: I think fold is fine here, you are easilly in terrible shape in this situation and can get yourself in even worse situation if you call. And it seems people rarely fold here to reraises.