$16t Bubble - 3 micro stacks (long)

Daleroxxu · #1 08-25-2006, 08:58 PM

This STT I made a lot of tough folds around the bubble and I'm not totaly sure that I made the right decissions on every hand.
So anyway, I've posted the HH here for critique.

Also, to make things easier I uploaded it to PXF (you need a free account there to view it):
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/pxf?...0825_195852.txt

Hand number 2, my line of thinking was that the blinds were just about to rise and that the player to my right may well accept an all-in on his BB.
I guess this thinking wasnt so bad though because he pushed UTG next hand when i had 1/4 BB left.

Hand, 9 what do you do if SB pushes? fold and leave yourself with 4 more chips than the guy to the left?

I tried to analyze some of the hands with SNGPT but there's a limitation that every player must have a full blind and ante in their stack.

***** HAND 1 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed)

CO (t2088)
Button (t9368)
SB (t831)
Hero (t1213)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
CO folds, Button folds, SB raises to t806 (All-in), Hero calls t406

Flop: (t1912) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1912) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1912) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Results:
SB has Qc, Ac (high card Ace)
Hero has 8d, Qh (high card Queen)

***** HAND 2 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed)

CO (t9343)
Button (t1712)
Hero (t382)
BB (t2063)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO raises to t2000, Button folds, Hero folds, BB folds

***** HAND 3 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed)

CO (t1687)
Hero (t157)
SB (t1638)
BB (t10018)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO raises to t1662 (All-in), Hero folds, SB folds, BB folds

Results:
CO has Kc, Ad (high card Ace)

***** HAND 4 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed)

Hero (t132)
Button (t1413)
SB (t9593)
BB (t2362)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero folds, Button folds, SB raises to t2000, BB folds

***** HAND 5 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

CO (t1388)
Button (t10068)
SB (t1937)
Hero (t107)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO folds, Button folds

Flop: (t1100) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1100) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Results:
SB has 4s, 8c (a full house, Kings full of Fours)
Hero has 9d, 8d (a full house, Kings full of Nines)

***** HAND 6 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

CO (t10018)
Button (t1830)
Hero (t314)
BB (t1338)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO calls t600, Button folds, BB checks

Flop: (t1700) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks

Turn: (t1700) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks

River: (t1700) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks

Results:
BB has 7d, 9d (high card King)
CO has Ad, 6h (a pair of Sixes)
Hero has As, Jd (a pair of Jacks)

***** HAND 7 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

CO (t1780)
Hero (t992)
SB (t688)
BB (t10040)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO folds, Hero folds, SB folds

***** HAND 8 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

Hero (t942)
Button (t338)
SB (t10490)
BB (t1730)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero folds, Button folds, SB raises to t3000, BB folds

***** HAND 9 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

CO (t288)
Button (t11240)
SB (t1080)
Hero (t892)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
CO folds, Button folds, SB folds

Results:
Hero has 5c, Jh (high card Jack)

***** HAND 10 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

CO (t11190)
Button (t730)
Hero (t1342)
BB (t238)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO folds, Button raises to t680 (All-in), Hero calls t380

Flop: (t2160) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

Turn: (t2160) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: (t2160) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

Results:
Hero has 3d, Kd (a pair of Sixes)
Button has Td, Tc (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
BB has Jd, Jc (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)

***** HAND 11 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

CO (t984)
Hero (t612)
SB (t764)
BB (t11140)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
CO folds, Hero folds, SB folds

***** HAND 12 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

Hero (t562)
Button (t414)
SB (t11590)
BB (t934)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero folds, Button folds, SB raises to t1800, BB folds

***** HAND 13 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed)

CO (t364)
Button (t12340)
SB (t284)
Hero (t512)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
CO folds, Button folds

Flop: (t1100) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1100) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1100) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Results:
SB has Qh, 2h (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
Hero has Ks, 8h (two pair, Kings and Threes)

***** HAND 14 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t800 with t50 antes (3 handed)

Hero (t896)
SB (t314)
BB (t12290)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero folds

Flop: (t1350) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1350) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1350) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Results:
SB has 9s, 3c (a full house, Fours full of Nines)
BB has 2h, Kh (three of a kind, Fours)

***** HAND 15 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t800 with t50 antes (3 handed)

Button (t678)
SB (t11976)
Hero (t846)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Button folds, SB calls t396

Flop: (t1746) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1746) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1746) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Results:
SB has 5h, 9s (a pair of Aces)
Hero has 3s, 8d (two pair, Aces and Eights)

***** HAND 16 *****

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t800 with t50 antes (3 handed)

Button (t11130)
Hero (t1742)
BB (t628)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Button raises to t3200, Hero calls t1292 (All-in)

Flop: (t5842) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

Turn: (t5842) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: (t5842) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

Results:
Hero has Ah, 3d (a flush, Ace high)
Button has 9s, Ks (a pair of Nines)
BB has 7s, Qh (two pair, Queens and Sevens)

Daleroxxu · #2 08-25-2006, 10:27 PM

pxf link was wrong, cant see how to edit the orignal post so here's the correct link...

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA20927/...25_195852/4625

bluefeet · #3 08-26-2006, 02:32 AM

H1: Yep.
H2: Have to call this. This protection from biggie is a HUGE gift to you.
H3: Fine. He's an idiot for pushing.
H4: Fine...we stand a MUCH better chance getting HU again with biggie next hand.
H8: You have to push this. You cannot outlast shortie. BB may actually fold for 300 more chips.
H10: Yep.
H11: [censored] dude, I regretting watching this, what a mess [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Um...I guess you have to push. SB has to call 300...and he probably won't. While he has enough chips to post two antes in time for UTG to bust in his blinds, with you covering him, he can't risk biggie push over. With him removed (maybe...hopefully), you crush random of course. Not pushing rests your survival soley in UTG losing both the next two hands.

H12: Not pushing #11...no choice.

HU...fine, sure

Clayton · #4 08-26-2006, 02:39 AM

Dale,

u have to shove the AQ.

A6 hand (11) is reaallllyyy close imo. flip a coin.

lastchance · #5 08-26-2006, 02:57 AM

If Button folds a lot of hands (like he should), and BB calls any 2, that is a pretty lousy push. I dunno, I think you can fold that AQ.

bluefeet · #6 08-26-2006, 03:06 AM

I dunno bro..EV calc doesn't know hero is in before shortie.

Daleroxxu · #7 08-26-2006, 06:06 AM

thx for the analysis bluefeet.

my line of thinking with hand 8 is that even if I fold this, and fold my BB, I'll have 4 more chips than the BB (he'd have t238 and i'd have 242) when I'm in the SB with both of us all in (50% chance of coming 3rd) and possibly the big stack coming along for the ride (66% chance of coming 3rd).
If I push AQo in hand 8 I have a 46.8% chance of winning against 2 random hands in the BB and SB and the shortie still has to bust before we're ITM.

Hand 11 I'm really thinking that at this level my oppponents are pretty stupid and may commit suicide.... like the guy in Hand 3 and that's why with him in SB he could very well push a decent hand into the huge stack.
and A6o doesn't have very much edge over 2 randoms.
Hand 12 BB is going to be forced to call off his 0.5BB extra or be all in on Hand 13 in the SB against my BB with me having more chips.

Anyway I just struggle over the analysis / working out the ev of these hands with SNGPT not working for them.

Daleroxxu · #8 08-26-2006, 06:26 AM

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I dunno bro..EV calc doesn't know hero is in before shortie.

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bro, I would be in before the shortie on my left but likely to be in with the most chips against the dude on my right when the BB comes to me.