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Old 08-23-2006, 06:24 PM
gutter gutter is offline
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Default KK in the middle

$1/$2 200 NL Full ring

Table has been fairly tight including both villans, but have not been at table long.

Effective chips stacks are all $250

Hero is in middle position with KK
SB posts $1, BB posts $2, UTG raises to $4, UTG +1 calls $4, hero raises to $20, Button calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

FLOP $67 (3 Players)

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UTG +1 Checks, Hero bets $50, Button calls, UTG +1 calls.


Turn ($217) 3 players

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Utg +1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River $217 (3 players)

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UTG +1 checks, Hero ??????

All have about $180 left. My question is what I should have done on the turn as well as what I should do on the river.
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: KK in the middle

I would push the turn. Or the river, since you're there now.
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: KK in the middle

I think I push here wiht your remaining stack. Button scares the hell out of me, but we have to call a bet from him. with UTG checking, i'd like to get some $ out of A9,TT,JJ,QQ
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: KK in the middle

shovey shovey shovey shovey shovey. holla
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: KK in the middle

SHOVE 4 VAL-U
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: KK in the middle

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I would push the turn. Or the river, since you're there now.

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pushing turn is better
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: KK in the middle

Push turn.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: KK in the middle

push turn. you're lucky a great card fell since you gave a free one ott, now push river.
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Old 08-23-2006, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: KK in the middle

Is everyone who is saying push turn/river a 6max player?

If not, please explain the push because I don't know enough to play this high but I think TT-QQ can often get away from a push here and button can have 99(though I believe it's very rare for him not to put in at least some kind of a bet last on the turn.

Is it because sets wont slowplay on the flop at this limit in a well raised pot?

Is it also because TT-QQ will have to call a high percentage of the time or risk metagame penalties(getting run off many hands in the future)?

Bet 50 on the river.

edit: okay, I just checked and all except maybe one of you are 6maxidonks but I'm sure that's totally irrelevant.

edit2: okay, I see there are only 6players listed in the hand but that doesn't mean it's likely to be the same as a 6max game. damn, lol.
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