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08-23-2006, 11:40 AM
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Preflop in a very lively game (simple?)...
10/20 w/half kill. Hero on button. Kill is posted UTG.
Uber-maniac just sat down three seats to the right (everyone knows he is an uber-maniac). Hijack is a young, aggressive, knowledgable (but not great) player -- he was a bit out-of-line before the uber-maniac sat down -- he moved over a seat to be on uber-maniac's left. UTG (kill) checks, folded to uber-maniac who raises (which means two cards in his hand), hijack(next to his left) 3-bets, CO folds, Hero (button) looks down at A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero... 
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#2
08-23-2006, 11:44 AM
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Re: Preflop in a very lively game (simple?)...
couple questions:
- four or five bet cap? - is UTG going to fold for sure? to a 4bet? what about a 3bet? - is uber-maniac capable of folding ever here? mostly I lean towards popping it though.
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#3
08-23-2006, 11:48 AM
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Re: Preflop in a very lively game (simple?)...
[ QUOTE ]
couple questions: - four or five bet cap? - is UTG going to fold for sure? to a 4bet? what about a 3bet? - is uber-maniac capable of folding ever here? mostly I lean towards popping it though. [/ QUOTE ] four bet cap. UTG is a question mark (passive not-so-good player -- certainly more likely to call two than three cold). uber-maniac will not fold pre-flop once he is already in the pot. never. He folds pre-flop about 20% of the time but only when the pot is raised before he has put any money into it.
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#6
08-23-2006, 01:04 PM
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Moving on to the flop...
So maybe preflop was as easy as I thought it was.
Hero caps, Blinds & UTG fold, UM calls, Hijack calls. Flop (14SB): Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UM checks, hijack checks, hero bets, UM raises, hijack 3-bets, hero ???
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#7
08-23-2006, 01:29 PM
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Re: Moving on to the flop...
[ QUOTE ]
So maybe preflop was as easy as I thought it was. Hero caps, Blinds & UTG fold, UM calls, Hijack calls. Flop (14SB): Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UM checks, hijack checks, hero bets, UM raises, hijack 3-bets, hero ??? [/ QUOTE ] thinks about the cheapest way to get to showdown.
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#8
08-23-2006, 01:43 PM
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Re: Moving on to the flop...
[ QUOTE ]
So maybe preflop was as easy as I thought it was. Hero caps, Blinds & UTG fold, UM calls, Hijack calls. Flop (14SB): Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UM checks, hijack checks, hero bets, UM raises, hijack 3-bets, hero ??? [/ QUOTE ] I'd call here, and evaluate all 3 options (raise, call, fold) depending on turn card and action
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#9
08-23-2006, 01:53 PM
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Re: Preflop in a very lively game (simple?)...
Pre-flop is a cap, no question.
On the flop I'd call and see what comes on the turn, and if these guys are who I think they are, I'd be looking to raise a lot of turns I think.
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#10
08-23-2006, 05:20 PM
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Re: Preflop in a very lively game (simple?)...
foldy
its not as simple as it looks. it can easily be translated into an isolation raise but it also leaves you guessing. and if an uber maniac is in the hand often times you'll overpay, not to mention make the 2nd best hand. i was kind of suprised to see that I am the only person so far that thinks folding is even an option.
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