The new poker machine unveiled! could change poker forever!

ed8383 · #1 08-23-2006, 02:10 AM

If this has been posted before im sorry go ahead and delete, if not then this might schock you!

Hollywood park casino (or the bike im not sure which one) will soon debut its new poker machine or should i say ELECTRONIC POKER TABLE. What is it you ask?

Think of a flat touch screen the size of a poker table where the whole cards are displayed on each player's side of the table, and with the touch of a hand their whole cards show their denominations. So you touch the screen to see the denomination of your cards, and when the hand is liften from the touch screen the 2 cards are only shown face down.

What does it all mean? players sitting around an electronic poker table with no dealers, no cards, no chips!

This should speed up poker in casinos tremendously, increasing hands per hour and rake, thus making poker more profitable for casinos (the machine will probably have timers included like online poker). Im guessing that the way to bet will be by touching the screen with your finger where the little bet size adjuster is in online rooms. Think of the rectangle you press and hold with the mouse in online poker that you move to the right to increase bet size, but instead of using a mouse you used your finger. Do know that im guessing this might be the way the electronic poker table does this, maybe it has sound recognition. I might have missed this part of the report or they didn't say.

So it will be like playing internet poker at a casino but no actual cards or ships, and no dealers. This is like a dream come true for Casinos. The speed and profitability of internet poker and no dealers, at a casino!

This means that dealers will one day might be history [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

ridonkulous · #2 08-23-2006, 02:23 AM

No way in hell this catches on and becomes the "norm". When people go to a casino to play, most of their enjoyment comes from raking in a big pot and stacking their chips.

ed8383 · #3 08-23-2006, 02:29 AM

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No way in hell this catches on and becomes the "norm". When people go to a casino to play, most of their enjoyment comes from raking in a big pot and stacking their chips.

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But it doesn't make as much money for the casinos. If you think casinos won't push an electronic poker table that speeds up play and allows more hands per hour (thus more rake), automatic time limits like online poker, and no dealers (another money saver for them), you are naive.

I wouldn't expect electronic poker tables to become the norm right away since im sure they are expensive. But you will start seeing them in big casinos sooner or later. I presume small non Vegas B&M cardooms will stay old school because I don't think they would spend the money to upgrade the system if they don't get so many visitors as big vegas casinos.

ridonkulous · #4 08-23-2006, 02:36 AM

If thats the case, every single house game would be electronic.

Yes, your right about generating more rake, but the games still need players to take a rake from. There is no way players will play. I know I won't.

ed8383 · #5 08-23-2006, 02:48 AM

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If thats the case, every single house game would be electronic.

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they probably will be once the techonology becomes readily available and we have portable electronic poker tables.

Axe Man Jack · #6 08-23-2006, 02:49 AM

I used to play the Electro Blackjack and rollerball craps locally when they offered it here in Minnesota. They don't compare to live play. Plus I don't dare believe that computers can truly make random deals and would avoid it if there was an option to play live instead.

The poker machine might make sense in bars, but in B and M casinos the only mechanical support I allow myself to be subjected to is Automatic deck shufflers.

When you go to the casino for live play you dont want to play on a computer.

ed8383 · #7 08-23-2006, 02:54 AM

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I used to play the Electro Blackjack and rollerball craps locally when they offered it here in Minnesota. They don't compare to live play. Plus I don't dare believe that computers can truly make random deals and would avoid it if there was an option to play live instead.

The poker machine might make sense in bars, but in B and M casinos the only mechanical support I allow myself to be subjected to is Automatic deck shufflers.

When you go to the casino for live play you dont want to play on a computer.

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It might destroy the essense of live poker we agree. But knowing how lazy people are and how people want everything "fast" and how the electronic poker tables would bring internet poker "hands played per hour" rates to casino card rooms, I think electronic poker tables will become a hit even if lots of purists stay away.

You might see some side of casinos going electronic while the rest are old school poker tables. But in the end technology will probably win as much as people try to resist.

MrFizzbin · #8 08-23-2006, 03:02 AM

There are a few problems I see:

First why go to a casino and play on-line poker....If its just like internet poker then why walk out of my house, drive to some place and have them take a higher rake than my Internet site for what ?!? the privlige of using their public bathrooms and touching screens handled by every miscreant in the room, and sit in a chair that isnt comfortable. The free Alchohol might be a draw, but still....

Second I beleive these devices will suffer from the same issue that Internet poker sites suffer from. I dont trust the random number genereator, and I want to see proof it isnt being "Adjusted" to max the rake.

Third what is the cost per table these things aren't bought they're leased. Is the cost per table less than 6.50/hour for the dealer ? even if you include the cost of 86ing chip runners, you still need to cashout.

How about cheating, whats to keep a railbird from looking over your shoulder scouting the game and signaling to his buddy what you have or keeping some one from seeing your screen.

Look I told them, that horseless carriage thing would never catch on, I told them that not everybody would be able to afford those Telephone things in their home. I just hope this thing is fad not a wave of the future.... but It wouldn't suprise me either way...

Farfenugen · #9 08-23-2006, 03:09 AM

I don't see this catching on at all.

Serious players play because of the fish. The fish don't come and play thinking of money. They think in terms of fun. So the money they will save is a non-factor. I can't imagine how boring it must be to play on those machines. The live experience brings the fish which in turn brings the serious players. You are right in that the casinos will push this on people, that is not in doubt. But I don't think it will last long.

ed8383 · #10 08-23-2006, 03:22 AM

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I don't see this catching on at all.

Serious players play because of the fish. The fish don't come and play thinking of money. They think in terms of fun. So the money they will save is a non-factor. I can't imagine how boring it must be to play on those machines. The live experience brings the fish which in turn brings the serious players. You are right in that the casinos will push this on people, that is not in doubt. But I don't think it will last long.

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one could argue that the pros would be all for this. They could increase their profits as poker in casinos would be played at online speed with more hands played per hour to internet levels. No cards to shuffle, no chips, just touch the screen to fold, call or raise.