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Old 08-22-2006, 03:35 AM
roxtar roxtar is offline
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Default AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

First orbit so no real reads, I've only got 8 hands on villain.
Should I just put him all in on the turn, or would it be better to wait until the river to put him all in?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($6.65)
CO ($5.28)
Hero ($9.68)
SB ($5.88)
BB ($3.24)
UTG ($3.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.05, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $0.35</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $0.15.

Flop: ($0.77) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.05</font>, Hero calls $0.05.

Turn: ($0.87) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, BB calls $0.25.

River: ($1.67) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.05</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ??</font>
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

Bet / raise the pot (or at least a fraction of it) each time. Don't let him baby bet before the river, as he could be betting a decent club and wants to chase.
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

Do you think I should go for his stack on the turn?
My thinking is that if he bets weak again on the river he'd be likely to see me going for his stack as being some sort of wierd bluff and pay me off, especially since he 3 bet PF and called the turn raise. Is this flawed thinking?
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

I think the standard TAG approach would be to raise this preflop. Then you gotta raise it up on the flop, you don't want another club to fall
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

When you are rr pf, do the same. Raise to .9 or 1 or so. From there on just make real bets, you are too scared of running him off here. Villain may drop prematurely, but putting in some actual money is a much better line.

Cam
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

Yeah, definately need to raise more as often these low limit players feel committed to call a moderate raise, with less than moderate holdings after they've put money in the pot. You also might catch him drawing to the flush or a made flush.
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

psr on turn, get the rest in on river
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

You should be betting harder on flop and turn. As soon as this flop hits, you need to check his stack and ask yourself: how do I get his entire stack in by the river? Make bets that will allow you to get your stack in at the river without overbetting the pot (i.e. potting flop and turn, and pushing rest at river). Simply raising the flop will change the dynamics of your future bet sizing, allowing for a larger bet on the turn and eventually getting all in.
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops nut flush... help me extract

Those pathetic little bets from this villian are devaluing a great hand. He liked his hand a lot pre flop -so I like a flop raise to .90. Turn for a $1.30, the rest of his stack by the river.
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:39 AM
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When you are rr pf, do the same. Raise to .9 or 1 or so. From there on just make real bets, you are too scared of running him off here. Villain may drop prematurely, but putting in some actual money is a much better line.

Cam

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