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Old 08-21-2006, 06:36 PM
SamG SamG is offline
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Default 600NL - Top pair + flush draw + gutterball

Villain is 52/8 and plays too loose both before and after the flop. I was looking to play pots with him.

Normally I would raise the flop and be happy to get my money in. I wasn't sure if I could make this opponent lay down a better hand, however. Should I raise here or just call and try to get the money in if I hit?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $545.25
UTG+1: $240
CO: $700.40
Hero: $1955.50
SB: $430
BB: $424

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG, folds, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $30</font>, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $55</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:42 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: 600NL - Top pair + flush draw + gutterball

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I wasn't sure if I could make this opponent lay down a better hand, however.

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You mean a set?

Board: Ts 7d 6d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 56.8182 % 56.36% 00.45% { Td8d }
Hand 2: 43.1818 % 42.73% 00.45% { AA }

I would play this fast most of the time just because your outs are pretty obvious. Calling is obviously also +EV.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: 600NL - Top pair + flush draw + gutterball

Yes, I know I'm a favorite over an overpair. I mispoke. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I would play this fast most of the time just because your outs are pretty obvious.

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I agree, but this dude did not like to fold. I think he might have paid me off anyway.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:58 PM
Sat0ri Sat0ri is offline
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Default Re: 600NL - Top pair + flush draw + gutterball

This is perfect example of situation where you can raise your draw for value, is it not?
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: 600NL - Top pair + flush draw + gutterball

My assumption is that this guy will fire again on the turn.
With his aggression firmly in mind, I like a call on the flop. If you hit on the turn, then determine how best to milk the pot depending upon how much he bets out on the turn.

I will make a sizeable raise on the flop vs. many opponents without question.
I believe you have more value in evaluating the board after the turn... he might also check you into a free card.

He will definately err on the side of paying you off, which adds value to waiting till you have the best of it.

If an 8 comes off, then you're in an interesting spot - probably worth calling down.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: 600NL - Top pair + flush draw + gutterball

I raise here like 85% of the time
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