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Old 08-21-2006, 02:49 PM
w_alloy w_alloy is offline
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Default QQ against Gildwulf and super fish (450+bb pot 3/6)

BB is Gildwulf. He knows I'm a (loosish) tag 2+2er. I think he plays pretty straightforward tag but dont have real stats on him due to 1k limit hands. CO is a bad 80/20/5 who is playing kinda on tilt to boot. Button is a baddish tag but capable of iso raising preflop. I didnt raise the 1st time because I didnt want to cut out CO. If CO folded the flop, I would have folded too.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($534.70)
CO ($1493.53)
Button ($2268.70)
Hero ($1052.55)
BB ($2764.40)
UTG ($594.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $40</font>, Hero (poster) calls $37, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $154</font>, CO calls $148, Button folds, Hero calls $120.

Flop: ($520) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $450</font>, CO calls $450, Hero calls $892.55 (All-In), BB calls $442.55, CO folds.

Turn: ($2755.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($2755.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $2755.10

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Old 08-21-2006, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: QQ against Gildwulf and super fish (450+bb pot 3/6)

ugh.
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: QQ against Gildwulf and super fish (450+bb pot 3/6)

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ugh.

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Obviously this hand would be bad the vast majority of the time. But doesn't CO change Gild's rang here a lot, and add dead money to the pot?
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: QQ against Gildwulf and super fish (450+bb pot 3/6)

yes, overpairs are always the nuts, but especially against morons.
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:59 PM
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yes, overpairs are always the nuts, but especially against morons.

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limidonk&gt;moron
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: QQ against Gildwulf and super fish (450+bb pot 3/6)

you werent the moron...
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:00 PM
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just because worse hands are in gild's range, that doesnt mean that he necessarily has one of those hands. also, i dont think he cbets a missed AK here, since the donk is calling with nearly every pair here.

he has AA/KK just so incredibly often here.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: QQ against Gildwulf and super fish (450+bb pot 3/6)

I think the only thing you are ahead of that GW has w/ any regularity is A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:02 PM
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I think the only thing you are ahead of that GW has w/ any regularity is A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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He's behind that too
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:02 PM
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just because worse hands are in gild's range, that doesnt mean that he necessarily has one of those hands. also, i dont think he cbets a missed AK here, since the donk is calling with nearly every pair here.

he has AA/KK just so incredibly often here.

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yea, with two pf people calling a huge reraise it's obvious they are on a mid-high pp and there's no way I bet out with AK
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