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#2
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Cliff's notes: A US appealate court rules that about $150k may be seized through civil forfeiture because:
[ QUOTE ] The totality of these circumstances – the large amount of concealed currency, the strange travel pattern, the inability to identify a key party in the purported innocent transaction, the unusual rental car papers, the canine alert, and the false statements to law enforcement officers – leads most naturally to the inference that Gonzolez was involved in illegal drug activity, and that the currency was substantially connected to it. [/ QUOTE ] This is an outrage. Where the hell is due process? This money was seized without this guy ever being convicted of anything. If you ACists want to jump on government thuggery, this is the pinnacle. Not to mention that the burden of proff is only the "preponderance of the evidence". |
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Authority hates paper money because it cant be tracked via the banking system and it is hard to tax.
The government would love to move to an entirely electronic system, so it can track how everyone spends their money and seize people's assets if they don't like their political views. |
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Relax Canis:
- No one is getting their money seized for their political views. - The government hates paper money so much that they print it. |
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I love this ruling. The carrying of large amounts of cash automatically makes you guilty of involvement in drug crimes.
Of course, trying to hide or lying about the carrying of large amounts of cash is even further proof of your guilt. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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- The government hates paper money so much that they print it. [/ QUOTE ] What do you think the government keeps in its vaults at Fort Knox and the Manhattan Fed? Hint: it's not paper. |
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[ QUOTE ] - The government hates paper money so much that they print it. [/ QUOTE ] What do you think the government keeps in its vaults at Fort Knox and the Manhattan Fed? Hint: it's not paper. [/ QUOTE ] Ooo, ooo, I know. Its gold. What's your point? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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I don't understand. ARNOLD, LAY, and COLLOTON, Circuit Judges said the money was connected to drugs. LAY, Circuit Judge said it wasn't. Which judges actions are upheld?
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The first 3. Lay gave what is called a dissenting opinion, meaning he disagreed with the other judges. But since he is in the minority, his opinion doesn't count.
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The totality of these circumstances – the large amount of concealed currency, the strange travel pattern, the inability to identify a key party in the purported innocent transaction, the unusual rental car papers, the canine alert, and the false statements to law enforcement officers – leads most naturally to the inference that Gonzolez was involved in illegal drug activity, and that the currency was substantially connected to it. [/ QUOTE ] Question for all of you on both sides of this: Apart from the question of constitutional rights and a legal court case, is the above reasoning sound? That is, if your neighbor had that much cash in those circumstances, would you instantly or not come to the same conclusion? |
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