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Old 08-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default I have 3 options

But I hate them all

villain is 11/5 over 55 hands. This is our 1st battle of the blinds encounter and the 1st time he's 3bet preflop. I don't think I had been overly agro, but I did 3bet ATs preflop and show it down (vs some1 else)

I was genuinely confused by this spot. All options seemed to suck.

If your answer is to raise/call, whats your plan for the rest of the hand?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $336.80
CO: $216.85
Button: $197
Hero: $301
BB: $219.70

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $24</font>, Hero....
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Old 08-20-2006, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: I have 3 options

dbitel,

I like a call. Raising just folds out everything we beat, and folding is just too weak.

I don't really have a plan. Mostly I'm playing for set value, but I will call him once if I flop an overpair or if the flop is like Q72r.
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Old 08-20-2006, 04:33 PM
Keys Myaths Keys Myaths is offline
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Default Re: I have 3 options

So you need to get 105 more from him if you flop a set?

I'd say that's pretty likely, given the preflop action. Even calling and playing for set value is fine here.
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Old 08-20-2006, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: I have 3 options

I like a call here, and I also like taking a stab at a Q high or lower flop (preferably lower) with a 35-40 dollar lead.
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Old 08-20-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: I have 3 options

I call.

If he views you as overly aggro, then call PF. I think there are a few options you have on the flop. I think a 4-bet PF here might induce a push from AK (and better hands for that matter). If he's likely to pull the RR off with AK/AQ/AJ/pairs, then c/r-ing most non paint boards seems okay. If he pushes after a c/r, we'll be in a world of hurt.

Another option would be to call PF and lead any flop (non paint). If raised then folding.

Yucky situation.
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Old 08-20-2006, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: I have 3 options

call.

He thinks you are raising light (AT hand) but is probably still a nit with QQ+ - call see flop and play poker.

JJ is not good enough to push preflop against this guy whos range is likely very tight - no set on flop give it up.

raising invites a push from him - then we gottta fold - folding outright sucks monkey scrotum - calling blows as he'll likely stop n go us and then we have no real idea where we are.

Calling is the lesser of 3 evils, I call and flop a set.
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Old 08-20-2006, 05:45 PM
Tickner Tickner is offline
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Default Re: I have 3 options

dbitel your hand is effectivley 22 here. Call for set value.

-Tickner

EDIT: A fold is not horrible. I like a fold more than I like a raise. But calling for set value seems best.
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Old 08-20-2006, 10:34 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: I have 3 options

I folded
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Old 08-20-2006, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: I have 3 options

i'd fold here..

thats pretty marginal for set value...

ppl dont "generally" have a wide re-raise much in these limits..
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Old 08-20-2006, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: I have 3 options

This one is sooooooo easy

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