lets play T3o

[tminus]

My reraise here was a misclick but i ended up in an interesting position: Villian is a complete donk, he could be pushing any random hand, his push gives me about 3:1 to call and Im 43% to beat his range.

[(.43 x $21.04) + (.57 x -$9.96)] = -0.34 which is barely unprofitable. Secondly, and this may be presumptious, FE will go down as a result of something so LAG because it insures that I get more action in the future which I could exploit when I get a decent hand.

Strangely, this adds up to call for me. Any takers?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($15.61)
SB ($51.25)
BB ($24.65)
UTG ($14.89)
MP ($25)
Hero ($39.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. MP posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2.59</font>, MP (poster) calls $2.34, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.93</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP folds, UTG pushes, Hero calls $9.96.

[Bang584]

If I call here, I'm not doing it based on the EV of the decision, I'm doing it for future advertisement. Since advertisement is only worth so much, I probably fold and commit to not misclicking again.

[tminus]

really? I find that LAGing it up can really stir things up at a table

[testaaja]

Well I like to gamble but I wouldn't call here. If you like to gamboool I don't mind it though, but I think that it's -ev. Still very nice gamble [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Bang584]

I find this applies more live than online. It works in both arenas, but online its so much easier for someone to just hit-n-run. You make the call with T3o, they double up, and they leave. While I do make some aggressive plays here and there, blatant advertising always seems to just cost me money.

[CaptainNurple]

I don't think the call is that big a deal. It was a random mis-click so it's not like you're making a habit of it...

That being said, I probably fold. My reasons being:

1) I understand your argument but agree with Bang that it's more effective live. In addition to the potential for a hit-and-run from a single player, I think the problem is that online at these limits, the turnover rate for these tables is so high in general that long-term considerations such as these tend to be nullified by how quickly new players come in and out.

2) Fish have very short-term memories (cf. Finding Nemo). Thus, you need to get a big hand very soon after calling here to profit from the potential extra action.

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I think the problem is that online at these limits, the turnover rate for these tables is so high

Fish have very short-term memories

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thanks, these are really great points. sounds like it'd be better to advertise if i can do it cheaply.

i wonder what % of these opponents notice loose aggression? when i play a real TAG game i get fewer calls than when I mix in a lot of blind steals

[mosuavea]

Your avatar is perfectly fitting

[ama0330]

Hang on, isn't this 2:1?

You are paying roughly $10 to win roughly $20, or 2:1 on your money - the $10 which you are paying isn't included in the calculations, because its not part of the pot yet. The current pot size would have to be closer to $30 to make this profitable.

If I'm right, this could never be +EV.

[tminus]

yes, 2:1....that was a typo but i believe the EV calculation is correct