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Old 08-19-2006, 06:02 PM
ASmith84 ASmith84 is offline
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Default (NL200 1/2) 4 KK hands.. need some kind of feedback

Heres 3 KK hands I played yesterday with very few reads on the players(~30 hands played). I didn't post the results because it might affect how some people view the hands, but I'll possibly post them later. I was just wondering how people here would bet in these situations. I can already say im betting way too low on some parts.. I recently changed over from SNGs so its a different game for me.

{{{HAND #1}}}
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MP ($239)
Button ($200)
SB ($230.65)
Hero ($171)
UTG ($345)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $22</font>, UTG calls $14, MP calls $14.

Flop: ($67) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, UTG calls $40, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $217</font>, Hero calls $109 (All-In), UTG folds.

Turn: ($473) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($473) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $473

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BB ($47.10)
Hero ($203.60)
MP ($101.80)
Button ($68.20)
SB ($235.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100</font>, MP calls $63.80 (All-In).

Turn: ($212.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($212.80) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $212.80


{{{HAND #3}}}
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Hero ($195)
UTG ($212.35)
Button ($82)
SB ($110.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, UTG calls $12.

Flop: ($41) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($81) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, UTG calls $32.

River: ($145) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: $145 <font color="red"> </font>


{{{HAND #4}}}
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BB ($136.15)
UTG ($80.40)
MP ($250.10)
CO ($269.05)
Hero ($229.20)
SB ($200)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $14.

Flop: ($63) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $80</font>, MP folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: $183
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Old 08-19-2006, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: (NL200 1/2) 4 KK hands.. need some kind of feedback

I'll try getting the #s on each villain in there in a few minutes.
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Old 08-19-2006, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: (NL200 1/2) 4 KK hands.. need some kind of feedback

Hand 1: Raise way more PF. I would probably make it $35

You don't really want to see a flop OOP with so many players.

Post flop looks okay... but with no reads, you might lay it down. Not too many people go for the post-flop squeeze, and you're in a Barely Ahead/Way Behind spot.

Hand 2:Looks standard. Could easily be up against a draw/AQ

Hand 3: Raise more PF, I would make it at least $25, maybe closer to $30. You are giving him huge implied odds to stack you.

Bet closer to pot on the flop. $30-$35

I would usually check the turn, and maybe/maybe not call a bet, depending on sizing and timing.

Hand 4: Your PF cold call kind of defines your hand a bit. I don't dislike it too much (although I would usually re-raise), but just know that it defines your hand as a biggish pair.

On the flop, I would either just call, or push. Min-raising is just so strong, with your hand defined as it is, and if you push, he can put you on a draw. Most hands that would stack off with the min-raise are stacking off to a push, as well.
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Old 08-19-2006, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: (NL200 1/2) 4 KK hands.. need some kind of feedback

Hand 1: More pf. Flop action looks fine, we have dead money in the middle from the caller, and we're a little short (FIX THAT!)

Hand 2: Fine, he's short

Hand 3: More pf, more flop, little more on turn. River is fine

Hand 4: Id generally RR pf. Raise a little more on flop
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