The Ultimate Fighter 4 premiers tonight!!!

[jokerthief]

I'm excited about this season. Here's the cast:

WELTERWEIGHTS

Mikey Burnett
UFC Record: 2-1 (Defeated Eugenio Tadeu and Townsend Saunders / Lost to Pat Miletich)
Shonie Carter
UFC Record: 3-2 (Defeated Brad Gumm, Adrian Serrano, and Matt Serra / Lost to Pat Miletich and Nathan Quarry)
Rich Clementi
UFC Record: 0-1 (Lost to Yves Edwards)
Jeremy Jackson
UFC Record: 0-1 (Lost to Nick Diaz)
Chris Lytle
UFC Record: 2-4 (Defeated Tiki Ghosn and Ronald Jhun / Lost to Ben Earwood, Robbie Lawler, Karo Parisyan and Joe Riggs)
Matt Serra
UFC Record: 4-4 (Defeated Yves Edwards, Kelly Dullanty, Jeff Curran, and Ivan Menjivar / Lost to Karo Parisyan, Din Thomas, B.J. Penn, and Shonie Carter)
Pete Spratt
UFC Record: 2-2 (Defeated Robbie Lawler and Zach Light / Lost to Josh Koscheck and Carlos Newton)
Din Thomas
UFC Record: 2-2 (Defeated Fabiano Iha and Matt Serra / Lost to B.J. Penn and Caol Uno)

MIDDLEWEIGHTS

Patrick Cote
UFC Record: 0-3 (Lost to Tito Ortiz, Joe Doerksen, and Chris Leben)
Edwin Dewees
UFC Record: 0-2 (Lost to Rich Franklin and Chris Leben)
Travis Lutter
UFC Record: 1-2 (Defeated Marvin Eastman / Lost to Matt Lindland and Trevor Prangley)
Charles McCarthy
UFC Record: 0-1 (Lost to David Loiseau)
Gideon Ray
UFC Record: 0-2 (Lost to David Loiseau and Mike Swick)
Jorge Rivera
UFC Record: 2-3 (Defeated David Loiseau and Dennis Hallman / Lost to Lee Murray, Rich Franklin and Chris Leben)
Pete Sell
UFC Record: 1-1 (Defeated Phil Baroni / Lost to Nathan Quarry)
Scott Smith
UFC Record: 0-1 (Lost to David Terrell)


BTW, UFC unleashed is on right now and next hour is Fight Night Live for 2 hours before the show.

[Hoya]

I'm not that high on this concept. Watching what are at best second and third rate fighters isn't that exciting for me, especially when most aren't going to get any better at this point in their career.

[JasonK]

At first I thought the "comeback" idea was good, but now I think it really sucks, cause most of these guys really suck.

[TheLurk]

who be da coaches?

[jokerthief]

This season is going to have a considerably better talent pool than the last season.

[Some Pig]

Mikey Burnett of the Lion's Den was awesome. If he wins this thing, he could give Hughes, Penn, St. Pierre, and the other smaller guys a run for their money.

[Hoya]

Overall, yes. But at least those guys are improving, and at least the show produced one guy who has real potential. If they included 155ers on this show, they could have had a ton of young talent rather than a bunch of washed up bums.

I'll certainly give it a chance but my hopes aren't high.

[jokerthief]

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Overall, yes. But at least those guys are improving, and at least the show produced one guy who has real potential. If they included 155ers on this show, they could have had a ton of young talent rather than a bunch of washed up bums.

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Why don't you think these guys will improve? I agree about the 1ightweights. That's my favorite weightclass, those guys are so fast.

[Hoya]

Because most are older and not that talented. I don't see any reason that this cast would be better overall in 2-3 years than they are now; they might be worse.

[KDawg]

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Because most are older and not that talented. I don't see any reason that this cast would be better overall in 2-3 years than they are now; they might be worse.

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this is very true, but they are also building guys who can draw money for them, so this will give some of the guys a chance to get their personalities over. I also think that guys like Mikey Burnett and Pete Spratt never really were given as much of a chance as they deserve. Its not like they are grabbing a bunch of king of the cage guys and putting them in there. All of these guys have experience in pancrase, shooto, etc. What I am surprised is that UFC hasn't tried to bring in Daniel Puder for their HW division