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Old 08-17-2006, 06:35 PM
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Default What do you need to call this resteal?

Villain seems reasonable. I've not seen him rr pre-flop before.

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t400/t800
(Ante: t50)
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t5137
UTG+1: t11459
MP1: t8140
MP2: t6376
Hero: t12166
Button: t10245
SB: t12395
Villain: t9562

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero has two cards .4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t1800</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Villain raises to t3200</font>, hero calls with what range and pushes with what range?
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

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Hero has two cards .

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lol

anyway.

How many hands have you played with him? How often have you raised from LP? What's the buy in=? Maybe he has a hand =)
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

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Hero has two cards .

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lol

anyway.

How many hands have you played with him? How often have you raised from LP? What's the buy in=?

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Don't think we've tangled. Shared a table for a while. He's got to think I'm raising a wide range here. $30 buy-in.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

good question

therein lies the secret to winning NL tournaments
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:15 PM
Art Vandelay Art Vandelay is offline
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

Weird, this reraise is laying you fantastic odds currently at over 4:1, meaning you can almost call with anything you raise with. The problem is that any reasonable villian is probably going to shove just about any flop. In other words, this feels like a bet that really wants action.

I'm a donkey, anything I raised with I'm calling and if I flop a pair I'm calling the inevitable push. As far as pushing, I'm gonna say 99+, AQ+ and be a tightie. This just feels like a big hand to me.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

This isn't a resteal, it seems to be a strong hand (he's giving you infinite odds to call). I think posting a range is pointless as you should be calling with any two because of the pot odds.

If Villain hasn't gotten out of line yet I would give him credit for AK JJ+.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

this guy is mindonkreraising with QQ+, AK. If was trying to resteal, he'd make a bigger RR,
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

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this guy is mindonkreraising with QQ+, AK. If was trying to resteal, he'd make a bigger RR,

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See, but he knew that you knew that he knew that min donk reraising wouldn't appear to be a resteal raise, so he completely fooled you!
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

I call this with any 2. Mainly to crack his AA with 24 when the flop comes 44K, and for meta-game purposes as well. Leak maybe?
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: What do you need to call this resteal?

Why are so many of you focusing on how you're getting 4:1 right now? That's basically meaningless. Most people's range here is AA/KK and very little else. Against that range calling pf is absolutely awful with virtually everything. I probably push some good hands like QQ-99 and AK, but that's just because I suck at folding. AA/KK I call and instacall any flop because very occasionally this is a weak-tight terrible "find out where I'm at" raise.

Colombo, if you think he has AA, calling with any two is atrocious.

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