AQo, 4-flush board... too aggro for me?

[Dr. Matt]

I wasn't sure if I did something wrong in this hand. The villain is 11/8.8/4.

WPEX, 3/6 9-handed

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 limps, 3 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, MP1 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero folds.

I tried a clarkmeister on the turn... probably should have been a c/f there huh? How's the 3-bet on the flop? Too much??

[MrWookie]

Clark applies to the river, but even if it were the river, just rattling off the fact that you think it's 4 flush board OOP => bet! means you're not really thinking about the situation.

[kerowo]

Is villain really an AF of 4? If so what do you think your donks are going to accomplish? I might be willing to call down for the rare time he doesn't have a diamond but really I think you can c/f the turn.

[cold_cash]

I think he's either crushing you outright or freerolling you on the flop, so I'm not a big fan of 3-betting.

Sometimes I stop and go the turn if it bricks.

In this case I would check and fold.

[Jaran]

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I think he's either crushing you outright or freerolling you on the flop, so I'm not a big fan of 3-betting.

Sometimes I stop and go the turn if it bricks.

In this case I would check and fold.

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Listen to the Cash man, he knows what of he speaketh.

-Jaran

[btspider]

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I think he's either crushing you outright or freerolling you on the flop, so I'm not a big fan of 3-betting.

Sometimes I stop and go the turn if it bricks.

In this case I would check and fold.

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Listen to the Cash man, he knows what of he speaketh.

-Jaran

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Listen to Jaran, he knows what of he speaketh.

[DrModern]

Is everyone into the 3-bet PF against these stats?

[OrigamiSensei]

The key number isn't the VPIP, it's the raise stat. A villain with those very conservative stats should still be perfectly capable of stealing - he's just not the sort to limp a whole lot of hands. So yes, I like the 3-bet even against the likely range of villain.

The problem is the whole donking into an aggression factor 4 player thing and doing it twice on a very dangerous board. First of all, what do you think he has? In all likelihood if he has a diamond it's going to be a high enough one that you won't bet him off of it. Against a player like that it's better to play the rope-a-dope game. Let Mr. Aggro bet. If you're feeling frisky then I guess you can check-raise, otherwise you can call and check-raise a safe card on the turn. When the fourth diamond hits on the turn it's time to get out of Dodge.

[CrMenace]

*grunch*

Oops - didn't notice it was a blind steal situatino.

Flop: 3-bet is good. With stats like those, villain could be raising anything.

Turn: I think I c/f. Villain may have raised initially on a flush draw, the flush, or something else that beats TPTK. If it's a bluff, so be it.

[Smurph64]

Heads up I understand the 3 bet but you have a limper there and you are way out of position.

I always conceal my strength in the sb unless I

a) own the aggressor
b) have a monster that plays best heads up
c) feel that I need to donate more money to the other players.

AQo is not a great 3 bet hand from the SB. I want to get a better feeling against an aggressor with position on me and so the check raise on the flop works best for me with that flop.

If he 3 bets my check raise here I have to think is my TPTK good enough?

If I am comfortable being beaten here then I fold. If I think I have the best hand I call it down.

This is the only time that this opponent has position on me so I don't mind letting him lead here. Even if I lose the hand I can use this to help me in the future.