(Kinda General) TAG Min-raises Turn ----> His range is???

[FoldEqu1ty]

Villain is typically TAGish - 28/10/2 after 200hands
Assume Party SSNL, say 100NL, 100bb stacks


Preflop: Hero is MP with XY. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $3.

Turn: ($12) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>


VILLAIN'S RANGE (%):
Straight -
Trips -
Two pair -
AA /AK -
Top Pair mid/low kicker -
Other / Air -

[FoldEqu1ty]

^^^^^^^^^^
I don't really know myself, so I won't clutter this thread with a poor attempt.

[carnivalhobo]

well he may have tag stats but he isnt good, the minbet and minraise are clear signs of poor play. The flop lead for 1 makes me think draw, i think he has JT a high percentage of the time with 44 being the rest.

[cambraceres]

We're looking at air, cbet flop into a turn minraise with a relative blank = Air

[FoldEqu1ty]

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.... The flop lead for 1 makes me think draw, i think he has JT a high percentage of the time with 44 being the rest.

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We're looking at air, cbet flop into a turn minraise with a relative blank = Air

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This about sums up my thoughts here - totally divided. I really struggle to get an idea where I stand.

[gimmetheloot]

these usually seem to be weak pairs or draws on the flop that hit a 2 pr or completed the draw w/ the turn c/minraise.
I dont know if I have ever seen a set played this way.
I also dont see it as air too often.
I fold this without at least K9

[nuts]

That really looks like JT I think, or maybe 44 or a turned two pair (with K). I think KQ is out, as are the high pp (no pf raise), unless he was going for a limp rr.

I don't think it's air, you've played abc and he'd need a very good read to try the min c/r to push you out.

I think youre probably beat here.

[Vincent]

Knowing what Hero has may help us figure out villain's hand.

[Jigsaws]

He open limps UTG, he makes a minbet on the flop, he check-minraises on the turn, and you want us to believe he's a TAG?

I'm just going to take a wild stab at this.

VILLAIN'S RANGE (%):
Straight - 40%

This is exactly how a lot of donks play a straight.

Trips - 15%

Not a usual line, but I could see 44/99 here. First make the minbet to show weakness. I think 99 is more likely, though: 44 probably would have minreraised the flop.

Two pair - 35%

Q9 or K9 makes perfect sense. Weak on the flop, hoping you'll call and basically tell him you have nothing. Turned two pair, and now he's hoping he can stack your TPTK.

AA /AK - 0.01%

I'd think most 28/10/2 TAGs would raise this preflop.

Top Pair mid/low kicker - 5%
Other / Air - 5%

Both of these only if he thinks if you're FOS because of previous actions.

[Jigsaws]

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Knowing what Hero has may help us figure out villain's hand.

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Villain doesn't know Hero's cards. There's no reason for us to know when we try to assign a range to villain.