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Old 08-15-2006, 05:25 PM
FreakDaddy FreakDaddy is offline
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Default Gus and Danny\'s set over set

I don't care how much money is in the pot on the end, the check-raise on the river by Gus is a fold by Daniel. There's no hand he's beating that makes that play. Gus isn't doing that with an overpair or 5x or straight. Danny has show what a POW (pay off wizard - like they enjoy saying on the show) he really is.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:58 PM
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full house vs quads?
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set

With the board reading 9 6 5-5-8, after being check raised on the flop and check raised again on the river, with anybody else other than Gus it's a logical laydown, but $130K or so to call to win a $300K+ pot, I can see how there was reason to call if Gus had fives full.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set

Why do people keep saying that you could fold it to others but not Gus? Sure he plays really loose pre flop but he knows what he's doing post flop and isn't gonna check raise the river in that pot with anything Negreanu beats.
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set

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With the board reading 9 6 5-5-8, after being check raised on the flop and check raised again on the river, with anybody else other than Gus it's a logical laydown, but $130K or so to call to win a $300K+ pot, I can see how there was reason to call if Gus had fives full.

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Gus plays loose an aggressive UNTIL someone shows strength... he then slows down unless he has you beat. Standard LAG play.

I think the fact that Danny is getting over 3:1 and Gus knows he knows that, should make for a more obvious fold. Really... maybe Gus makes this move with 65, but that's it. Does he have the case 6 25% of the time... don't think so.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:13 PM
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I think the fact that Danny is getting over 3:1 and Gus knows he knows that, should make for a more obvious fold. Really... maybe Gus makes this move with 65, but that's it. Does he have the case 6 25% of the time... don't think so.

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Why would he make this move with 65, but not 85 or 95?
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:47 PM
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I think the fact that Danny is getting over 3:1 and Gus knows he knows that, should make for a more obvious fold. Really... maybe Gus makes this move with 65, but that's it. Does he have the case 6 25% of the time... don't think so.

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Why would he make this move with 65, but not 85 or 95?

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65 is more realistic considering the action.
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:34 PM
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I bet Hellmuth would've been able to make that laydown.
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:10 PM
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65 is more realistic considering the action.

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Nice edit. Why exactly is 65 more realistic, especially from Daniel's POV?
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:51 AM
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The call was 167k, with the pot already at 408. If you lay down 6's full the table will walk all over you.
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