QQ, c/f flop?

Luckyz · #1 08-15-2006, 12:41 PM

villian 25/2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($31.90)
SB ($18.75)
Hero ($35.70)
UTG ($17.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero raises to $1, Button raises to $3.25, SB folds, Hero calls $2.25.

Flop: ($6.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $11.75

DanJ. · #2 08-15-2006, 12:48 PM

yea, i check/fold that flop as well...limp reraise is AA most of the time.

Antinome · #3 08-15-2006, 01:01 PM

What? this can't be TT, JJ, or AK?

I don't think I can find a flop fold here. I'm torn between a reraising and floating and seeing what he does on a non- A,K,J,T turn.

nuts · #4 08-15-2006, 01:14 PM

25/2 over how many hands? If it's >100 then fold preflop, 2% fpr isn't very much and you're probably beaten after the limp rr.

bankbreaka · #5 08-15-2006, 01:19 PM

definately cannot see myself laying that down.. Id probably give it a cold call

mosuavea · #6 08-15-2006, 01:21 PM

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25/2 over how many hands? If it's >100 then fold preflop, 2% fpr isn't very much and you're probably beaten after the limp rr.

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Folding PF to the LRR is bad, hero has odds to draw to a set.

I definitely dump the flop though.

labrat · #7 08-15-2006, 01:24 PM

Is this the first time you've seen him LRR?
How many hands do you have on him?
Whats your PFR% likely to look like to him?

nuts · #8 08-15-2006, 01:27 PM

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25/2 over how many hands? If it's >100 then fold preflop, 2% fpr isn't very much and you're probably beaten after the limp rr.

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Folding PF to the LRR is bad, hero has odds to draw to a set.

I definitely dump the flop though.

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So this is an implied odds arguement? The odds of a set are about 7-1 on the flop, which we're not getting from the pot, but you think it's worth it because you can probably stack the opponent if you hit?

mosuavea · #9 08-15-2006, 01:31 PM

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So this is an implied odds arguement? The odds of a set are about 7-1 on the flop, which we're not getting from the pot, but you think it's worth it because you can probably stack the opponent if you hit?

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Yep...

From the FAQ, the 5/10. I would venture a guess that you will stack villain in this situation a ton of the time if/when you flop a set

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Q: I've heard other posters mentioning the 5/10 rule. What is it?

A: The 5/10 rule is an important no-limit concept that first appeared in Bob Ciaffone's excellent book, "PL & NL Poker." To quote directly from the book:

"When contemplating calling a raise because your position is good, you have a clear call if the raise is less than 5% of your stack, and a clear fold if it is more than 10%. In between those numbers, use your judgement."

It's a good rule for calling a preflop raise with a pocket pair in hopes of hitting a set. The driving force behind the concept is the implied odds in a given situation. If you get your set, but the opponent only has 5BBs after the initial raise, calling to hit the set in the first place is incorrect.

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nuts · #10 08-15-2006, 01:33 PM

I see, thanks! This is something I need to work into my game.