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Old 08-14-2006, 07:36 PM
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Default $11 early with middle set

early in tourney so no reads. as an unkonows at this buyin, Pre flop I can put him on AKo, AKs, AA, KK, JJ and probably even smaller PP's (many players get really aggressive PF with medium PPs hoping to not see a flop).
On flop, I'm trying a check raise. more money if he has nothing, more info if he has something. unfortunetely he checks. I can safely eliminate AK of all types, probably not KK, so it's lower PP or Aces. when he calls my turn bet, should I bet river? how much? do I call his AI? this play is consistent with AA, but probably also with TT?
I either played this too weak, or with too loose river call.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1480)
Hero (t1520)
UTG+1 (t1550)
MP1 (t1270)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1620)
CO (t1440)
Button (t1700)
SB (t1420)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t120.

Flop: (t430) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (t430) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, MP3 calls t200.

River: (t830) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t1220</font>, Hero calls t820 (All-In).

Final Pot: t3170
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: $11 early with middle set

I reraise preflop. I think the C/R on the flop is fine. Assuming I take your line to the turn, I bet the turn for t350. I be the river at about t500.
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: $11 early with middle set

I guess with bets that large calling the AI is no question, right? the pot will lay about 6:1 odds.
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:57 PM
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Why would you ever fold middle set here? Why? I don't care what kind of odds I'm getting, unless I have some kind of Barry G-like read, I will never fold this hand.

Your opponents suck. They will have Ax here most of the time. You are incredibly weak-tight if you are ever worried about being behind here.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:01 PM
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reraised pf, quiet on flop, calling turn, reaising AI on river, what other hand would be consistent with that other than AA or TT? and since AA reaises PF more often, I think this is about 6:5 odds villain has AA.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:03 PM
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reraised pf, quiet on flop, calling turn, reaising AI on river, what other hand would be consistent with that other than AA or TT? and since AA reaises PF more often, I think this is about 6:5 odds villain has AA.

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Your overanalyzing this. You have a set in an 11. get all ur money in asap.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: $11 early with middle set

an AI on flop I would gladly call, but the quitness on flop after the PF raise is scary. I just don't see what other hands make sense here.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: $11 early with middle set

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Why would you ever fold middle set here? Why? I don't care what kind of odds I'm getting, unless I have some kind of Barry G-like read, I will never fold this hand.

Your opponents suck. They will have Ax here most of the time. You are incredibly weak-tight if you are ever worried about being behind here.

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What he said. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: $11 early with middle set

what is up w/ your title? I want one.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: $11 early with middle set

Your opponents don't think at an $11 when they play poker. Not at all.
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