Request for strong draws...

[krishan]

Here I go again. This time with more specific instructions. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'm working on the strong draw part of my book and it would help a lot if I could just look at lots and lots of strong draws with opponent reads. I'm not looking for hands that you have questions on. I'm just looking for your basic flush draw, OESD hands. I'm defining a strong draws as 8+ outs.

If you want to help me out, keep track of your strong draws and post them with VP$IP/PFR/AGG opponent information for me. I'll comment on them.

I've tried looking through my own strong draws but without having player reads I can't tell if the line I took is correct. This is the only way I can think of to get rapid fire strong draw examples for me to work with/on. Thanks agian for the help!

Krishan

[Peter Harris]

SB is taggy after 65 hands (25/12/3)
UTG is LA-P to LA-A after 80 hands (37/15/0.9)

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 13 BB

[Peter Harris]

SB is LP-A after 61 hands (47/1.6/3.5)
BB is fish after 150 hands (37/5/1)

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

[Peter Harris]

BB is 29/6/3 after 60 hands
CO is 60/7/1 after 80 hands

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG folds.

River: (9.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB


EDIT: out of the 3, i think this is the one i fluffed up.

[krishan]

[ QUOTE ]
SB is taggy after 65 hands (25/12/3)
UTG is LA-P to LA-A after 80 hands (37/15/0.9)

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 13 BB

[/ QUOTE ]

I like the flop raise based on a pure equity play. Turn and river play themselves. Nice hand.

Note the implied odds on your straight are really really high on the J as anyone playing a naked T will be forced to pay you off nearly all the time.

Krishan

[Peter Harris]

Plus the J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] gives me teh nutZ!!1!!1!!!

When is the book out? I hope you're letting SSSHers preorder [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Mossberg]

Villain is 27/13/2 over 160 hands, and he seems to do alot of raising from the blinds.

I'm not sure how bad I screwed this one up. Should I have just called down?

Limit: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB

[DING-DONG YO]

[ QUOTE ]
Plus the J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] gives me teh nutZ!!1!!1!!!

When is the book out? I hope you're letting SSSHers preorder [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Word

[Mossberg]

SB - 30/7/1.5 over 150 hands
BB - I only have 20 hands on this guy and he seems like a LAG.

I also hate this hand, but I guess I had the odds to call. OTOH, I probably should have taken into account the chance that there is a 3bet after I cold-call 2 each time.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (15BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 15BB

[jba]

Mossberg,

I would 3bet the flop there about 100% of the time.