Queens played passively

virompl · #1 08-13-2006, 08:38 PM

UTG is 24/17/2.5
Other 2 are loose, relatively passive

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises,4 folds, MP calls, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG caps, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17.33 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG bets, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.66 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG bets, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, MP bets, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 17.66 BB

tiltaholic · #2 08-13-2006, 09:14 PM

raise the flop.

kumarshah · #3 08-13-2006, 09:16 PM

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ericyp · #4 08-13-2006, 09:17 PM

So.. with the overpair and straight draw, a raise on the flop would've been good. If 3 bet, call and think about KK, AA, AK or possibly JJ if UTG is looser PF. Turn is a safe card. If not 3 bet on the flop, raise/bet turn again. It's also likely UTG would've checked to you if he had just called your raise. River is a scare card and it looks like MP hit his flush draw, but there's also a strong possibility he also just completed a straight draw. Wih pot odds what they are, you have to call this. Is that right?

virompl · #5 08-13-2006, 09:27 PM

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raise the flop.

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Can you explain why? Isn't the pot to big, I can't protect my hand. Or do I have enough equity?

tiltaholic · #6 08-13-2006, 09:30 PM

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raise the flop.

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Can you explain why? Isn't the pot to big, I can't protect my hand. Or do I have enough equity?

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you could have the best hand.
if not, you have a lot of outs.

Dr. Matt · #7 08-13-2006, 09:46 PM

you have to raise this flop... hand plays out differently from then on.

virompl · #8 08-13-2006, 09:49 PM

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you could have the best hand.
if not, you have a lot of outs.

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I see now.

I was just not sure my hand is best all that often when a tag caps preflop then bets out on a flop like this into many players.

defence18 · #9 08-13-2006, 10:02 PM

It's not about protecting your hand. It's about charging people to draw out on you.

Chris Daddy Cool · #10 08-13-2006, 10:07 PM

a guy with a 17% pfr full ring makes me want to put in more action on the flop, but otherwise you played the hand fine.

for those advocating a flop raise, look at the board and give me a range for utg given the preflop action. if you think he caps AK/AQ and leads into this field on this flop, then raise the flop. if he would cap AJ and lead then fine, raise.