"standard" -EV from the blinds?

[gasoltub]

I assume it has been discussed somewhere what kind of -EV one can expect when in the blinds, but I can't find it now.

I'm currently playing 3/6 (6 max) and I'm losing
0.02BB/hand in SB
0.19BB/hand in BB

my sample size is fairly small (~2K hands in each blind position) so I guess that I will lose more from SB as I get more hands. Anyway, if someone could point me to a post where this is discussed or just give me a number...

thanks a lot
/gasoltub

[kidcolin]

your BB/hand for BB is too high.

[gasoltub]

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your BB/hand for BB is too high.

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thanks, I'll try to get it down. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Seriously though, what do you think it "should" be in the long run?
In my 150K hands of 1/2 & 2/4 I'm at -0.2BB/100 in BB. Should I expect it to be far from that in 3/6?

[raze]

Here's my stats, for comparison

3/6 6max, 25k hands
breakeven in SB
-0.10 in BB

some relevant stats..
VPIP SB = 30%
F SB to steal = 89%
F BB to steal = 50%

I dont see much talk about these particular stats too often. Care to post yours ?

[gasoltub]

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Here's my stats, for comparison

3/6 6max, 25k hands
breakeven in SB
-0.10 in BB

some relevant stats..
VPIP SB = 30%
F SB to steal = 89%
F BB to steal = 50%

I dont see much talk about these particular stats too often. Care to post yours ?

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-0.02 in SB
-0.19 in BB
VPIP 27%
VPIP SB 31%
PFR 20%
Att. to steal 41%
F SB to steal 85%
F BB to steal 35%

I think I have been defending my BB too much.

[Guruman]

I'd guess that you are defending your bb too much, especially given the structure of 3/6. with only a buck in there, the small blind will have to have a narrower range to steal with.

[Keepitsimple]

I think the amount you lose in the BB depends entirely on what players you are facing. If you get to limp into every pot you will lose a lot less. I think anything under (0.15) is considered good.

[gasoltub]

For starters I'm gonna defend less and read through this a few times more: "Sort of a general thought about defending blinds".
Then we'll see how my next 10K hands turn out.

[raze]

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I'd guess that you are defending your bb too much, especially given the structure of 3/6. with only a buck in there, the small blind will have to have a narrower range to steal with.

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I may not be reading this right - I don't think the size of the SB affects what the SB will try to steal the BB with.

[londomollari]

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I may not be reading this right - I don't think the size of the SB affects what the SB will try to steal the BB with.

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Of course it does. In a 1-2 structure the small blind is getting even money on a steal. In a 1-3 structure he is investing 5 chips to win 4.
Bad players may no change there steal range depending on structure, but clearly in a 1-3 structure you need to tighten up significantly on your steals relative to a 1-2 structure.