God I Hate Flat-Callers

Foucault · #1 08-11-2006, 02:17 PM

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t13643)
UTG+1 (t6110)
MP1 (t9900)
MP2 (t9510)
MP3 (t13361)
CO (t9170)
Button (t5361)
Hero (t11523)
BB (t7344)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t400, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls t200, BB checks

Flop: (t1425) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets t900, BB calls t900, MP1 folds

Turn: (t3225) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero?

I didn't see fit to make any notes on Villain, so I'm assuming he's been fairly quiet. I imagine I'm perceived as opening a little light PF, but I haven't given Villain any reason to think I'm making a play in this situation. These stack sizes suck.

JohnFR · #2 08-11-2006, 02:34 PM

I really don't think you have any choice but to check, and call a reasonable bet, I expect a check behind here most of the time. If he checks behind, half pot river as a blocking/value bet in 1? Ugh, hate this spot.

Beachman42 · #3 08-11-2006, 02:39 PM

With no notes, I bet half villian's remaining chips and then easily call his push. He didn't raise pf or on the flop, so I'd put him on a str8 draw or a pair here. You are well ahead of that range. If you check, a thinking villian pushes here. You bet says you are happy to call while leaving him a safe escape route.

HojoMofo · #4 08-11-2006, 03:03 PM

I certainly dont like the texture of the board considering he limped preflop.

Beachman42 · #5 08-11-2006, 03:08 PM

2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

What scares you here? a 9-8 straight? there is no longer any possible flush. TPTK plays very well against a limper. I seriously doubt that TT or JJ limped here. If he has JT then that's poker.

zoobird · #6 08-11-2006, 03:10 PM

It seems like you're way ahead of his range (the only two hands he's likely to have that you're behind are 98 and 22) here, and with no flush draws he probably doesn't have that many outs if you're ahead. I can see an argument for another bet (maybe he'll call with something like KJ or QJ)or for a check/call (not that much risk of getting outdrawn if he checks behind).

What buy in level was this?

Foucault · #7 08-11-2006, 03:13 PM

Sorry, this is a $50 freezeout on Stars.

And it case it wasn't clear, the limper folded on the flop. The unraised BB is the Villain in this hand.

seke2 · #8 08-11-2006, 03:14 PM

Could be behind JT too.

I bet again. Somewhere around 2k-2.5k looks good?

FW Andy · #9 08-11-2006, 03:21 PM

Well, we can be pretty sure our hero has lost this hand by the title so he may have been up against someone weak. Add KK, and QQ to the hands he can be afraid of . I've unfortunately seen them both played this way. We can't assume much about BBs hand. I'd still bet the turn but don't discount weak play or stupidity from the villain. JJ, 10 10, J10 may all be "monsters under the bed" but unfortunately possible as well.

Foucault · #10 08-11-2006, 03:24 PM

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Could be behind JT too.

I bet again. Somewhere around 2k-2.5k looks good?

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Are you folding or calling if Villain pushes?